Why ghosts make noise

[Zinjanthropos]

"Paranormal investigators do not get paid. paranormal investigation is a hobby and a very expensive one at that.

That's a pretty bold statement. Do you have proof for this? I mean Google is littered with paranormal investigators who either charge or don't. I look in the local directory and there are people in this area that do it. I don't think you can honestly say all investigators do not charge for their services or at minimum don't ask for a donation or gas money. 

Isn't something as simple as a psychic reading of your palm/vibes/mind/whatever, an investigation? And they do it for free? Don't think so.

[Magical Realist]

"Paranormal investigators do not get paid. paranormal investigation is a hobby and a very expensive one at that.

That's a pretty bold statement. Do you have proof for this? I mean Google is littered with paranormal investigators who either charge or don't. I look in the local directory and there are people in this area that do it. I don't think you can honestly say all investigators do not charge for their services or at minimum don't ask for a donation or gas money. 

Isn't something as simple as a psychic reading of your palm/vibes/mind/whatever, an investigation? And they do it for free? Don't think so.

Did I say all? I said most paranormal investigators don't charge. Look it up yourself.


"What is generally the starting salary for your position?

Are you kidding?

I don't know where in the &%!$ people got the idea that this was some kind of established profession. Most organizations and investigators don't get paid AT ALL, let alone a salary. The only way to make money is to work for a university (an education that would run you six figures, so it would hardly be profitable) or to get extremely lucky and sell lots of books or a TV show. Unfortunately, there is such a gold rush now that the competition is very fierce. I don't think it is realistic for most people to expect to make a living at this - so you best just do it because it's in your blood."===http://www.paranormalghost.com/investigator_faq.htm

[Zinjanthropos]

"Paranormal investigators do not get paid. paranormal investigation is a hobby and a very expensive one at that.

That's a pretty bold statement. Do you have proof for this? I mean Google is littered with paranormal investigators who either charge or don't. I look in the local directory and there are people in this area that do it. I don't think you can honestly say all investigators do not charge for their services or at minimum don't ask for a donation or gas money. 

Isn't something as simple as a psychic reading of your palm/vibes/mind/whatever, an investigation? And they do it for free? Don't think so.

Did I say all? I said most paranormal investigators don't charge. Look it up yourself.

Is that a 'cold read' question? Sure sounds like one in this instance. And it's a good one!!! You're already sounding like a pro.

[Magical Realist]

"Paranormal investigators do not get paid. paranormal investigation is a hobby and a very expensive one at that.

That's a pretty bold statement. Do you have proof for this? I mean Google is littered with paranormal investigators who either charge or don't. I look in the local directory and there are people in this area that do it. I don't think you can honestly say all investigators do not charge for their services or at minimum don't ask for a donation or gas money. 

Isn't something as simple as a psychic reading of your palm/vibes/mind/whatever, an investigation? And they do it for free? Don't think so.

Did I say all? I said most paranormal investigators don't charge. Look it up yourself.

Is that a 'cold read' question?  Sure sounds like one in this instance. And it's a good one!!! You're already sounding like a pro.

Ad homs on my character and integrity. You should go lie down again. This topic is getting to you.

[Zinjanthropos]

I don't think you can honestly say all investigators do not charge for their services or at minimum don't ask for a donation or gas money. 

Do you believe the word 'you' in the above line from Post 21 refers to you personally or just everyone in general? Contextually it is not 100% specific, a well known technique used by cold readers. However I am curious as to why you would post .....

"Paranormal investigators do not get paid. 

.....right after saying 'most' don't get paid. Did I take 'most' out of context?

[Magical Realist]

"Paranormal investigators do not get paid.

.....right after saying 'most' don't get paid. Did I take 'most' out of context?

Are you quoting me or somebody else?

[Zinjanthropos]

"Paranormal investigators do not get paid.

.....right after saying 'most' don't get paid. Did I take 'most' out of context?

Are you quoting me or somebody else?

You said most don't get paid in post 18 and then quoted a link saying P investigators do not get paid. Did I misunderstand the use of 'most' in post 18 or the non use of 'most' in post 20?

Regardless, I still think you, MR, can profit from your experience in this field. You know more than many do and could easily be a convincing investigator.

[Magical Realist]

Regardless, I still think you, MR, can profit from your experience in this field. You know more than many do and could easily be a convincing investigator.

I already told you I'm not interested in profit from the paranormal. But it sure does interest you apparently. Why don't you start a business and get rich off it? Maybe specialize in these "cold reading questions" you seem to know so much about.

[stryder]

I'm stubbornly subjective by considering a couple of people in regards to the subject, Alexander Graham Bell and Harold Houdini. Both at one point went through the process of "Paranormal Investigation", however they weren't looking for ghosts, ghouls or fantastical phenomena they were both looking at the truth of a scientific explanation. With Bell it would of have been down to being a Scientist and Inventor, with Houdini although he's known as an escape artist, he's basis of training and understanding of how to create illusions gave him an idea of how such "cons" could be played.

They didn't go in with a in open mind, they already knew they were looking for a con artist finding that rare exception would of been a breakthrough, however they had greater chance of catching Moby Dick.

Today's Paranormal investigators aren't the same, they don't go into believing it's a con, in fact to some extent they've already conned themselves by a mantra about keeping an open mind. Some might be responsible for manufacturing their own events for "entertainment", others might well be being conned themselves (It wouldn't take much for a studio to setup some unwitting paranormal investigators to hear bumps in the dark, whether of course they would identify it as being them and discredit the investigators or just milk a proverbial cash cow, that's an entirely different point.)

I suppose you could say that I view it as Parapsychology, the Science of identifying Fraud.

[Magical Realist]

Today's Paranormal investigators aren't the same, they don't go into believing it's a con, in fact to some extent they've already conned themselves by a mantra about keeping an open mind. Some might be responsible for manufacturing their own events for "entertainment", others might well be being conned themselves (It wouldn't take much for a studio to setup some unwitting paranormal investigators to hear bumps in the dark, whether of course they would identify it as being them and discredit the investigators or just milk a proverbial cash cow, that's an entirely different point.)

One would probably find oneself laden with many preconceptions of the field of paranormal investigation without having observed any investigations oneself. I can say from my own observing of investigations that there is neither fraud nor misperception going on with the more seasoned and trained investigators. Various mundane causes are routinely ruled out at every point. The shadow of a passing car thru a window. The effect of a breeze in an open hallway. Rats and mice and pigeons. More times than not they arrive at some very compelling phenomena that have no mundane explanation: voices from empty rooms, footsteps on the upper floor of a deserted bldg, cell door closings in an abandoned prison, and light anomalies galore. You have only to witness this activity often enough to realize it is a very real and typical phenomenon that occurs over and over again from one haunted location to the next. It is not frequent, but in the rare instances evidence is captured on film it is really striking.

Here is a scientific analysis of the rapping sounds of a haunted location. They were discovered to have strange characteristics that don't match normal rap sounds:

http://www.ghosttheory.com/2010/07/01/sc...ings-found