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Dec 2, 2016 04:36 AM
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http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-new...ut-n690741
The "magic mushroom" drug psilocybin can help cancer patients relax and feel less distressed about their disease, two teams of doctors reported Thursday.
"The drug eased anxiety and depression in 80 percent of the patients who took it in the studies, and many described their one-time sessions as ranking among the most meaningful experiences of their lives.
While the drug is clearly not for everyone, it's worth testing under carefully controlled conditions in more patients, the researchers concluded.
"We found that a single dose of psilocybin immediately reduced symptoms of depression and anxiety in patients that had advanced cancer and life-threatening forms of cancer," Dr. Stephen Ross, director of addiction psychiatry at New York University's Langone Medical Center, told NBC News."
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Syne
Dec 2, 2016 06:11 AM
Why do these people constantly waste money to study things that are completely obvious? Anyone who's taken a psychedelic could tell you what they probably spent tons of money to find out. Very much like the lab nerds who did a study to find out that fat girls have less sex. Here's an idea. Instead of using people as guinea pigs, why don't these academics get out into the world...try some drugs if they're that curious...meet a few women for once.
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Dec 2, 2016 08:34 PM
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I think it's great to spend scientific time and money on researching ways to allieviate human suffering. But then that's just little old non-sociopathic me. What do I know? Question: do you actually believe it would pass the FDA, much less the Dept of Justice, if there were no official scientific studies to back up shrooms as a medication?
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Syne
Dec 2, 2016 09:07 PM
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(Dec 2, 2016 08:34 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: I think it's great to spend scientific time and money on researching ways to allieviate human suffering. But then that's just little old non-sociopathic me. What do I know? Question: do you actually believe it would pass the FDA if there were no official scientific studies to back it up?
I didn't see any mention of seeking FDA approval in that article. That would be another matter. Maybe they could help your suffering.
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Dec 2, 2016 09:24 PM
(Dec 2, 2016 09:07 PM)Syne Wrote: (Dec 2, 2016 08:34 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: I think it's great to spend scientific time and money on researching ways to allieviate human suffering. But then that's just little old non-sociopathic me. What do I know? Question: do you actually believe it would pass the FDA if there were no official scientific studies to back it up?
I didn't see any mention of seeking FDA approval in that article. That would be another matter. Maybe they could help your suffering.
lol! How do think the FDA approves new medications? With a lottery draw?
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Syne
Dec 2, 2016 09:38 PM
You do know that there is a shit ton of research only for research sake, right? Or do universities commonly bring drugs to market?
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Dec 2, 2016 09:40 PM
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(Dec 2, 2016 09:38 PM)Syne Wrote: You do know that there is a shit ton of research only for research sake, right? Or do universities commonly bring drugs to market?
You do know scientists wouldn't test a new drug without the intent of getting it passed by the FDA for actual use? Or do you believe scientists regularly test drugs just for shits and giggles? Not everyone is a sociopath you know..
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Syne
Dec 5, 2016 06:32 AM
(Dec 2, 2016 09:40 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Dec 2, 2016 09:38 PM)Syne Wrote: You do know that there is a shit ton of research only for research sake, right? Or do universities commonly bring drugs to market?
You do know scientists wouldn't test a new drug without the intent of getting it passed by the FDA for actual use? Or do you believe scientists regularly test drugs just for shits and giggles? Not everyone is a sociopath you know..
Do universities commonly bring drugs to market?
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Dec 5, 2016 06:28 PM
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(Dec 5, 2016 06:32 AM)Syne Wrote: (Dec 2, 2016 09:40 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Dec 2, 2016 09:38 PM)Syne Wrote: You do know that there is a shit ton of research only for research sake, right? Or do universities commonly bring drugs to market?
You do know scientists wouldn't test a new drug without the intent of getting it passed by the FDA for actual use? Or do you believe scientists regularly test drugs just for shits and giggles? Not everyone is a sociopath you know..
Do universities commonly bring drugs to market?
Yes. Any scientific study on a new drug helps bring it to market.
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Syne
Dec 5, 2016 10:50 PM
(Dec 5, 2016 06:28 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Dec 5, 2016 06:32 AM)Syne Wrote: (Dec 2, 2016 09:40 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Dec 2, 2016 09:38 PM)Syne Wrote: You do know that there is a shit ton of research only for research sake, right? Or do universities commonly bring drugs to market?
You do know scientists wouldn't test a new drug without the intent of getting it passed by the FDA for actual use? Or do you believe scientists regularly test drugs just for shits and giggles? Not everyone is a sociopath you know..
Do universities commonly bring drugs to market?
Yes. Any scientific study on a new drug helps bring it to market.
That wasn't the question, and you know it. You claimed the university wouldn't test without the intent to pass FDA. If that's true, where's the evidence that this study specifically satisfied a phase of FDA approval? I agree that ANY testing coincidentally helps bring a viable drug to the market, but that wasn't what you claimed. So you seem to have just moved the goalpost to avoid admitting your claim was wrong.
And you wonder why you have no credibility with anyone.
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