Article  Carney dismisses US accusations of Canadian election interference (embassy brewing)

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Prime Minister Mark Carney on Friday dismissed accusations that Canada planned to interfere in next month’s US midterm elections and said he was disappointed in comments made by the American ambassador. Carney’s remarks underline the chilly state of bilateral relations since Canada walked away from talks on a possible trade deal in late August, citing unreasonable US demands.

The US embassy in Canada on Wednesday said Ottawa “brushes off concerns about potential interference in US elections, even as its ministers and premiers openly describe plans to influence American politics.”

A week earlier, Ambassador Pete Hoekstra had told a podcast that his message to Canadians was to “keep your nose out of American politics.”

Carney said Canada had no intention of interfering in the November 3 elections. “There is no merit to these claims,” he told reporters during an official visit to Turkey. “I’m disappointed their envoy sees that as his role to make these suggestions.”

US President Donald Trump has imposed a raft of tariffs on imports from Canada and frequently suggests he could annex the country. His approval rating at home is at record lows, and polls suggest his Republican Party will do badly in the midterms that will determine control of the US Congress.

Asked whether he thought Trump could use poor election results as an excuse to impose more tariffs on Canada, Carney said he did not think that was likely. The trade talks that collapsed in August had been intended in part to cut some of the tariffs. Carney reiterated that Canada was in no rush to sign a deal and, for the first time, suggested Ottawa might wait till Trump’s term was over.

“If it has to be months from now or longer than that, or another administration before a proper deal comes into place, we will do that,” he said.

The trip to Turkey is part of a campaign to reduce Canada’s heavy reliance on the US economy. “It’s absolutely clear where I stand, where Canada stands, where Canadians stand. We will never be the 51st state. We are going our own way,” Carney said.
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Canada too busy making trade deals than rigging US elections. Insulting to some of us but I’m thinking it’s a sign the US govt (GOP)is just deflecting blame should things not go their way. Figured this would happen though. Makes the most powerful nation on Earth look like the Duchy of Grand Fenwick. Why not declare war on Canada instead, surrender, then ask for reparations?

So what's smartest thing do ….make trade deals with other nations because US either won’t honour current deal they endorsed, toss ridiculous tariffs at us to make up for their own inadequacies and just don’t like/trust us, or rigging US elections?

What kind of yes men are we dealing with in this administration? Are they after nice paycheque and comfortable pension by doing what they’re told?
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1. Premier Doug Ford (Ontario)
The U.S. Embassy pointed to an October 2025 speech Ford gave to the Empire Club, where he announced a $75 million anti-tariff advertising campaign targeting American television broadcasts (including the World Series).

What he said:
"We're going to repeat that message to every Republican district there is, right across the entire country."

2. Industry Minister Mélanie Joly
The U.S. document singled out Joly for outlining targeted economic and political pressure points.

What she said:
The embassy cited comments from Joly indicating that Canada would target Republican-held states with strategic pressure tactics—specifically counter-tariffs designed to hit exporters in regions represented by key U.S. decision-makers.
- gemini


Spending money on targeted messaging toward a specific political party in the run up to an election sure sounds like election meddling.
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(Yesterday 06:52 PM)Syne Wrote:

1. Premier Doug Ford (Ontario)
The U.S. Embassy pointed to an October 2025 speech Ford gave to the Empire Club, where he announced a $75 million anti-tariff advertising campaign targeting American television broadcasts (including the World Series).

    What he said:
        "We're going to repeat that message to every Republican district there is, right across the entire country."

2. Industry Minister Mélanie Joly
The U.S. document singled out Joly for outlining targeted economic and political pressure points.

    What she said:
The embassy cited comments from Joly indicating that Canada would target Republican-held states with strategic pressure tactics—specifically counter-tariffs designed to hit exporters in regions represented by key U.S. decision-makers.
- gemini


Spending money on targeted messaging toward a specific political party in the run up to an election sure sounds like election meddling.

Hardly a country out there that doesn’t practice political lobbying to protect economic interests. Works both ways. Hardly criminal. People would get upset if the target affected their preferences so I can understand why we can be a bad guy. Could I find Americans right now who would be pleased with our overt lobbying….sure. No big deal. Games. Political parties tend to not like being the unfavourable target. When our Albertan separatists recently visited for GOP advice I wasn’t surprised. Normal move in a big game.
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Seeking advise from people who are politically aligned with you is one thing. Spending $75 million (I presume of Canadian taxpayer money) to sway people who aren't aligned with you is another. Lobbying is done to politicians, not in ads to the voting public.

But I assume the excuses are endless.
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Ya but it can sure light up YouTube. Cherry picked comedy vids and fake news items, so many, how can anyone form an opinion from that stuff plus definitely not worth getting riled up about.
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Considering the US GDP is 13 times larger than Canada's, I presume it would be fine if the US government spent $975 million in advertising in Canada, in favor of one political party over another right before an election. No Canucks would ever be offended by that, right?
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(Yesterday 09:39 PM)Syne Wrote: Considering the US GDP is 13 times larger than Canada's, I presume it would be fine if the US government spent $975 million in advertising in Canada, in favor of one political party over another right before an election. No Canucks would ever be offended by that, right?

I wouldn’t personally. Might be rules against it. These guys worried about loopholes that permit it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/foreign...-1.7333170

Back in 1800’s a rich man was running for office in a Nova Scotia town. If you promised to vote for him he gave you two bottles of whiskey. Everyone took the whiskey. Rich guy lost election.
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(Today 02:29 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
(Yesterday 09:39 PM)Syne Wrote: Considering the US GDP is 13 times larger than Canada's, I presume it would be fine if the US government spent $975 million in advertising in Canada, in favor of one political party over another right before an election. No Canucks would ever be offended by that, right?

I wouldn’t personally.

Not really an answer to the question asked, but whatever. Can't argue apathy.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Right before an election is a little late in the game for me. All the polls would have been in. I’m sure some people wouldn’t like it. Our election ads begin with ‘this is a paid political announcement’.
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