Aug 6, 2026 11:19 PM
(This post was last modified: Aug 6, 2026 11:19 PM by C C.)
INTRO: Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” shares his interview with Larry Elder, in which Larry destroyed his weak arguments. Dave's most viral clip that changed his career and political views forever.
They also discuss why Elder rejects the idea that systemic racism is the biggest problem facing Black Americans. His heated challenge to Dave over racism, police shootings, and Black Lives Matter. Why he believes fatherlessness, the welfare state, and the breakdown of the family have had devastating consequences. Affirmative action, school choice, and why Black voters may disagree with the Democratic Party on more issues than the media admits. And much more.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
THE RUBIN REPORT
https://youtu.be/QEvl1P4mIaQ
VIDEO EXCERPT: My guest this week is a lawyer, a writer, and the host of the aptly named Larry Elder radio show. Larry, how's it going?
Going great, Dave. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Yeah, thanks for coming in. I've been trying to make this happen with you for a while.
I've been dodging you forever. Caught up with me.
I got you. I got you. [...] So there's a lot of stuff I want to talk about. And in the beginning of the show, I set up that I am a liberal. You're a conservative.
My condolences. [laughter] Maybe by the time this show is over, we can move you to the center a little bit.
And maybe by the time the show's over, that's not going to happen. But that's what it's all about. That's why I've wanted to have you on the show because I find there are some people in the public space that I disagree with, but that I'd like to sit down and talk about some of the ideas, and I consider you in that space.
[...] So I haven't talked that much about the right. I've had a couple people on the right. How would you define conservatism? What do you think that even means at this point in America in 2016? What is a conservative?
Well, I don't mind being called a conservative. I don't consider it to be a four-letter word, but I really call myself a libertarian. I believe in article 1, section 8 of the constitution, which gives the federal government a small number of things to do, Dave.
Mint money, put together an army, deal with the borders, and a handful of other things. That's it. Welfare, health care, abortion, same-sex marriage, doctor-assisted suicide -- all the social issues that the Supreme Court takes up -- in my view, they shouldn't take those up in the first place. That should be done on a state-by-state basis. That's what I think most conservatives believe as well.
So, I'm with you on a lot of that. I definitely have some libertarian beliefs myself.
I think most people are libertarian. They just don't know it. The founding fathers were libertarians. The founding fathers drafted a document that said our rights come from a power other than individuals. Government doesn't give us our rights. We give government our rights and power, and everything else should be left to the states and to individuals. That's how the constitution was started. That's how the country was started. And I think that's how most Americans really feel when they really think about it....
Dave's red pill moment ... https://youtu.be/QEvl1P4mIaQ
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/QEvl1P4mIaQ
They also discuss why Elder rejects the idea that systemic racism is the biggest problem facing Black Americans. His heated challenge to Dave over racism, police shootings, and Black Lives Matter. Why he believes fatherlessness, the welfare state, and the breakdown of the family have had devastating consequences. Affirmative action, school choice, and why Black voters may disagree with the Democratic Party on more issues than the media admits. And much more.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
THE RUBIN REPORT
https://youtu.be/QEvl1P4mIaQ
VIDEO EXCERPT: My guest this week is a lawyer, a writer, and the host of the aptly named Larry Elder radio show. Larry, how's it going?
Going great, Dave. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Yeah, thanks for coming in. I've been trying to make this happen with you for a while.
I've been dodging you forever. Caught up with me.
I got you. I got you. [...] So there's a lot of stuff I want to talk about. And in the beginning of the show, I set up that I am a liberal. You're a conservative.
My condolences. [laughter] Maybe by the time this show is over, we can move you to the center a little bit.
And maybe by the time the show's over, that's not going to happen. But that's what it's all about. That's why I've wanted to have you on the show because I find there are some people in the public space that I disagree with, but that I'd like to sit down and talk about some of the ideas, and I consider you in that space.
[...] So I haven't talked that much about the right. I've had a couple people on the right. How would you define conservatism? What do you think that even means at this point in America in 2016? What is a conservative?
Well, I don't mind being called a conservative. I don't consider it to be a four-letter word, but I really call myself a libertarian. I believe in article 1, section 8 of the constitution, which gives the federal government a small number of things to do, Dave.
Mint money, put together an army, deal with the borders, and a handful of other things. That's it. Welfare, health care, abortion, same-sex marriage, doctor-assisted suicide -- all the social issues that the Supreme Court takes up -- in my view, they shouldn't take those up in the first place. That should be done on a state-by-state basis. That's what I think most conservatives believe as well.
So, I'm with you on a lot of that. I definitely have some libertarian beliefs myself.
I think most people are libertarian. They just don't know it. The founding fathers were libertarians. The founding fathers drafted a document that said our rights come from a power other than individuals. Government doesn't give us our rights. We give government our rights and power, and everything else should be left to the states and to individuals. That's how the constitution was started. That's how the country was started. And I think that's how most Americans really feel when they really think about it....
Dave's red pill moment ... https://youtu.be/QEvl1P4mIaQ