Are memories stored anywhere?

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Magical Realist Offline
"If we assume from the start that everything mental must be reducible to something physical, then we close the possibility of understanding the mind on its own terms. We have consigned ourselves to translating the wealth of subjective experience into impoverished neural patterns, only to then realize that this has not helped us to “explain” memory in any meaningful sense of the word. A genuine science of memory would begin by questioning the storage metaphor itself. Perhaps memories are not stored “anywhere.” Perhaps the brain’s role is not to house the past, but to facilitate our engagement with it."--- https://iai.tv/articles/memory-is-not-st..._auid=2020

Where then, and in what sense, are memories when we are not remembering? Does not the very metaphor of "storing" memories in some container contradict the very nature of a memory being only a present and subjective experience--a moment of pure conscious recollection? A memory could therefore no more be stored in a physical form than a perception of our immediate environment could be. It is a state of first-hand experience of the past--roughly as we experienced it. This suggests to me a sort of fractal-like structure of the mind, retaining within its own non-physical depths of its structures all the events that occurred to us in the past. Think of memories as the mind's stitchwork interweaving together our sense of one present state of consciousness. I don't agree with the above author that memories are outside of space. I feel like they generate their own space or simultaneity in how they all seem to present themselves without any of their original sequence. Our past is just this randomly flashing montage of moments all seeming to be in the same location, wherever that may be. Perhaps some sort of cognitive hyperspace like cyberspace.
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confused2 Offline
AIs might give some clues. To start with all possible responses and whittle that down to a 'best' response would take an enormous amount of power so they must have a clever way of fishing for the 'right' answer .. unfortunately I don't know how how they do it .. so .. um..
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stryder Offline
The simplest way to philosophise on this is to consider an Abacas. It's not just a calculator, but also a mnemonic storage device to allow the sum to be equated.

For a value to exist the beads used have to be in specific positions associated with their value. While they are in that position the total value is memory.

If however the a change is made by a continuation to a sum, the initial value will be lost into a string of calculative iterations with only the sum being remembered, but not how the sum got there.

If a human memory allocation is similar then it's using a string of associations that will constantly change the value of what is actually stored. Although with out memory thanks to being a neural network, we can offshoot a way to map how the sum is equated through an inverse memory allocation process. Thats what is important the ability to navigate not just a tree of memories but the tree of actions associated with how those memories got there.
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