Urinary retention and NSAIDs..

[Magical Realist]

Been experiencing urinary retention the past day or so. That's when you still feel like you need to pee but nothing comes out. I was taking Aleve every day for soreness. Come to find out this can be a side effect of these kinds of drugs. Thanks Dr. Goggle!

"According to a report in Harvard Men's Health Watch, a newsletter published by the USA's Harvard Medical School, men suffering from slow urine flow as a result of benign prostatic hyperplasia should avoid using non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, as new research suggest that they can exacerbate the condition. The article uses products like ibuprofen and naproxen, in addition to certain over-the-counter cold and allergy remedies, as examples of agents likely to worsen BHP.

The report is based on work carried out in the Netherlands, which found that the risk of acute urinary retention was around twice as high in men taking NSAIDs as in those not taking them. The team concluded that the drug's interaction with the bladder was likely to be a key factor in its effect on the condition."

https://www.thepharmaletter.com/nsaids-l...-retention

[geordief]

Been experiencing urinary retention the past day or so. That's when you still fee

l like you need to pee but nothing comes out. I was taking Aleve every day for soreness. Come to find out this can be a side effect of these kinds of drugs. Thanks Dr. Goggle!

"According to a report in Harvard Men's Health Watch, a newsletter published by the USA's Harvard Medical School, men suffering from slow urine flow as a result of benign prostatic hyperplasia should avoid using non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, as new research suggest that they can exacerbate the condition. The article uses products like ibuprofen and naproxen, in addition to certain over-the-counter cold and allergy remedies, as examples of agents likely to worsen BHP.

The report is based on work carried out in the Netherlands, which found that the risk of acute urinary retention was around twice as high in men taking NSAIDs as in those not taking them. The team concluded that the drug's interaction with the bladder was likely to be a key factor in its effect on the condition."

https://www.thepharmaletter.com/nsaids-l...-retention

Have you tried deep breathing?

Filling your lungs  as full as they will go a few times

(maybe  checking that you are doing diaphragmatic breathing as it is the diaphragm that should account for most of force required for breathing and I think that your lungs  will work at a lesser capacity if the diaphragm is  not used  enough)

I have been doing this as ,if you just urinate once you may  not empty the bladder  completely and I find that breathing deeply facilitates the second  urination.

My purpose is to avoid waking in the night and so I will do this last thing  but also during the day in the hope of strengthening  the diaphragm  .

You can (and should) take this with a pinch of salt as I have not consulted  a doctor about this- but I think it is fairly well accepted that diaphragmatic breathing is a good practice for a variety of reasons (I think.it may be good for anxiety and also if one has any breathing disease)

Another tactic I employ is to ensure I drink enough during the day Not large amounts  but not to "go dry" .As I say  my aim is to avoid waking up too much in the night to piss but it may be good advice  more generally.

[Magical Realist]

Thanks for the advice geordief. I will try the breathing. I usually stay hydrated during the day with a large diet soda. I just went and didn't have a problem. Maybe it's resolved itself.

[geordief]

Thanks for the advice geordief. I will try the breathing. I usually stay hydrated during the day with a large diet soda. I just went and didn't have a problem. Maybe it's resolved itself.

Let us know if the breathing helps.(if the prob has resolved for now it may not be apparent)

Like I said it was just an idea I had .I think  the diaphragm ,when filling the lung  probably  can put a little extra pressure on the  bladder which may be enough to persuade it to empty out a little more effectively and  so irritate the prostate less.

I am careful  not to overdo(ie force) this deep breathing  thing.Maybe the most important is  to have healthy diaphragmatic (as opposed to shallow) breathing .

The extra deep breathing seems to help me   but it is not something I found on the Internet or heard from a Dr.

It is a lot of trial and error and might not work for other people.(it is early days with me)

[C C]

[...] "According to a report in Harvard Men's Health Watch, a newsletter published by the USA's Harvard Medical School, men suffering from slow urine flow as a result of benign prostatic hyperplasia should avoid using non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs [...] The team concluded that the drug's interaction with the bladder was likely to be a key factor in its effect on the condition."

A home remedy that wives secretly give to their husbands for bladder-related problems (that are intertwined with BPH) is to put a small amount of jalapeño pepper in some dish that is served to them every day.

Store bought cans of refried beans usually contain just the right quantity of jalapeño ingredient per modest serving to be effective (don't overdo it beyond that).

If attempts to hook the spouse on refried beans are unsuccessful, then more annoying to prepare or time-consuming slyness must be resorted to. But opening up a can of refried beans and tasting it for the tame degree of jalapeño bite it has provides the standard for achieving the same level in a different food.

The "Tio Franco" brand of "seasoned refried beans" is ideal. (Whatever the brand, ensure that jalapeño is listed among the ingredients.)

[Magical Realist]

I just ate some red beans and rice from Popeye's, but there's no jalapeno that I know of. Google AI said this:

"Cessation of NSAID: The most critical step is stopping the offending NSAID, as the problem is drug-induced.

Hydration: Rehydration can help, especially if kidney function is also affected. (ordered an 8 pck of Gatorade Zero by Amazon. Should arrive Sat)

Individual Response: Recovery times vary, but studies show normalization of kidney function (and implicitly bladder function) within 3 to 9 days after stopping NSAIDs in some cases."

[geordief]

[...] "According to a report in Harvard Men's Health Watch, a newsletter published by the USA's Harvard Medical School, men suffering from slow urine flow as a result of benign prostatic hyperplasia should avoid using non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs [...] The team concluded that the drug's interaction with the bladder was likely to be a key factor in its effect on the condition."

A home remedy that wives secretly give to their husbands for bladder-related problems (that are intertwined with BPH) is to put a small amount of jalapeño pepper in some dish that is served to them every day.

Store bought cans of refried beans usually contain just the right quantity of jalapeño ingredient per modest serving to be effective (don't overdo it beyond that).

If attempts to hook the spouse on refried beans are unsuccessful, then more annoying to prepare or time-consuming slyness must be resorted to. But opening up a can of refried beans and tasting it for the tame degree of jalapeño bite it has provides the standard for achieving the same level in a different food.

The "Tio Franco" brand of "seasoned refried beans" is ideal. (Whatever the brand, ensure that jalapeño is listed among the ingredients.)

First I heard of the Slyly Surreptitious  Spouses Society.
Not sure if that is good news or bad.

Seriously, jalapeño has only come up in my previous searches as being in a class of food (peppery,spicy) to avoid as it supposedly irritates the bladder.

Is your story anecdotal and intended as a joke or is there some logic behind it ?

[C C]

First I heard of the Slyly Surreptitious Spouses Society. Not sure if that is good news or bad.

Seriously, jalapeño has only come up in my previous searches as being in a class of food (peppery, spicy) to avoid as it supposedly irritates the bladder.

Is your story anecdotal and intended as a joke or is there some logic behind it?

Partly facetious and partly not. I just go by semi-direct experience of what hubby reports. If he doesn't get his regular dose, complications arise. All research is limited to the potential of capsaicin with respect to prostate cancer (and other benefits -- pain, cardiovascular, etc), rather than enlargement and bladder difficulties. Yet he's my local indicator of jalapeño peppers influencing something in that department.

But he may be one of the distinct individuals that varies from the "general, average, or abstract person" that medical research establishes standards for. So it's best to go with the latter's advice if one feels that is the category one belongs to. Also, genetics can determine prostate problems and their adjacent effects on the bladder -- little can prevent those consequences if misery or doom is written in one's biological code.

BPH is increasing around the globe as the dietary habits of American junk food and refined food have likewise proliferated. Which includes the latter's effect on the population of Mexico. Or IOW, capsaicin can't deter all the ill results of a bad diet. 

Hot Pepper Ingredient Kills Prostate Cancer Cells
https://we.riseup.net/assets/413817/Hot-...-Cells.pdf

Effect of capsaicin on prostate cancer cells
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21062154/

Anticancer Properties of Capsaicin Against Human Cancer
https://ar.iiarjournals.org/content/36/3/837

[Magical Realist]

I don't have prostate cancer. They can check for that in a blood test now which is part of my annual physical. No more rubber glove. And I dislike hot peppered food. But tks anyway.

EDIT: Well after talking to my brother Bobby about his prostate inflammation, I went to the VA emergency room and was there for 2 and half hours with 2 people ahead of me. Decided to leave and fight this affliction on my own. Wish me luck!

EDIT: took an excedrin last night and felt great and peed like a racehorse. But I found out that that's an NSAID too. So I got up this morning and took Tylenol, which is not an NSAID. We'll see what happens.