Dec 31, 2025 12:20 AM
Dec 31, 2025 12:20 AM
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Dec 31, 2025 12:20 AM
Dec 31, 2025 01:55 AM
(This post was last modified: Dec 31, 2025 01:56 AM by C C.)
It could almost cause a radical direct realist (who believes their sensations are "out there" instead of "in here") to theorize that the manifestation of a color like red (and the rest) purely falls out of certain geometric patterns of black and white components. The latter arrangements usually at a microscopic level, but can sometimes be demonstrated at a blown-up scale. ("No, no. My brain doesn't do anything, my brain doesn't add anything. This is an illusion occurring in the environment itself that I'm connecting to without cognitive processes as a mediator.")
Dec 31, 2025 02:27 AM
Interestingly I can go back and forth between seeing the can's pixels as red and as black and white. Usually the illusory "red" effect returns when I quit viewing and then come back to it again later. This suggests to me a definite mental factor being involved in this illusion, and certainly not anything going on in the pixels themselves. It's like the difference between just initially perceiving the can as one gestalt or whole in itself as opposed to focusing in on the patch of pixels itself. Like the can's redness is generated by the concept of the coke can itself--as the object I am recognizing-as opposed to just the pixels making up the picture.
Dec 31, 2025 03:06 AM
(Dec 31, 2025 02:27 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Interestingly I can go back and forth between seeing the can's pixels as red and as black and white. Usually the illusory "red" effect returns when I quit viewing and then come back to it again later. This suggests to me a definite mental factor being involved in this illusion, and certainly not anything going on in the pixels themselves. It's like the difference between just initially perceiving the can as one gestalt or whole in itself as opposed to focusing in on the patch of pixels itself. Like the can's redness is generated by the concept of the coke can itself--as the object I am recognizing-as opposed to just the pixels making up the picture. A stunner would be if they could still find a legit someone on the planet who had never seen a Coca-Cola can before. If Hurula Mweru from the Remote Plateau Tribe also saw red when peering the right way, then naive realists would be rejoicing (until maybe Skipton the Skeptic came along). Objects of Perception: "There are, however, two versions of direct realism: naïve direct realism and scientific direct realism [...] We have seen that for the naïve realist, objects that are not actually being perceived continue to have all the properties we normally perceive them as having." |
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