Myths… The Clawed Door

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Mohsen Ezz El-Din Al-Bakri Offline
Myths… The Clawed Door

In the mountainous areas of southwest Yemen, where I belong, a strange story repeats itself about a house at the end of the village. They say that a tiger attacked it and scratched its door with its claws, and the marks are still visible today, even though the wood is from sidr or ilb, which cannot be pierced by a nail except with great effort due to their hardness. What is remarkable is that most villages in the neighboring areas tell the same story, so every village has its own scratched door
, and I do not know, perhaps this story extends throughout all the mountainous regions of Yemen, where tigers used to live side by side with the villages in the surrounding hills and mountains.
The strange thing is that the marks mentioned in these stories as tiger claw marks actually mostly date back to the time the wood itself was cut, since the carpenter and the house owner accepted whatever wood was available with its flaws, without tools for polishing or perfect finishing. Every natural scratch or crack in the wood later became a "tiger claw" in the memory of the village. Especially the house on the outskirts of the villages, although these marks exist on the doors of other houses as well, but mythical thinking is like that and does not scrutinize
Once, a conversation occurred between me and someone, fortunately a thoughtful young man, otherwise we would have continued our discussion in the hospital or the grave : "He said, the tiger scratched a door of ilb -(sidr)- impossible for a tiger to scratch a door of sidr!" with its strength and durability. I said to him: "By the power of God." He looked at me in astonishment, so I continued smiling: I told him all religious stories are the same as the scratched door this Either all of them are by the power of God or all of them are myths.
Just our ancestors… I do not know where they were riding on them when prophecy was divided between the Arabs and the Israelites… otherwise, if we had a prophet, we would have had the Chapter of the Scratched Door and you would defend it and curse anyone who denies or doubts it
Sargon of Akkad was placed by his mother in a wooden basket on the Euphrates River, and the shepherd Aqi found him and took him to the king’s house, where he lived and was raised. When he grew up, he became king of Akkad and established a large empire. This story is found in Akkadian cuneiform inscriptions preserved in the Louvre Museum in Paris, and in the epic of his birth written on clay tablets in the Iraq Museum in Baghdad.
Moses was born in Egypt and placed in a basket on the banks of the Nile to escape Pharaoh, and the people of Pharaoh found him and raised him, and he grew up to lead the Israelites out of Egypt. Same story as the scratched door and the tiger that did not leave a village without scratching its door.
Shubshi Nergal, the Babylonian sufferer, lost his health and family, endured torture, and called upon the god Marduk, who saved him, and he lived to return strong. This story exists in Babylonian cuneiform texts preserved in the Berlin Museum and the Louvre, and is part of the famous "Shubshi Nergal" epic. Same story as the prophet Job.
Felix the Nulli fled from the emperor and hid in a cave with his companion. The dove and the spider came and built a residential complex at the cave door . And the pursuers came and said he could not be here, and the spider wove on the cave door and the dove built her nest. This story exists in European medieval manuscripts, preserved in the Vatican libraries and some national museums in France and Germany. Same story as Prophet Muhammad and Abu Bakr hiding in the Cave of Thawr.
Noah built an ark before the flood, gathering a pair of each species and his believing family, and survived the flood to start a new life on earth. This story exists in religious and archaeological texts, such as the Akkadian flood epic on cuneiform tablets preserved in the Iraq Museum and the Louvre.
In Hindu mythology, there is a global flood similar to Noah's flood, mentioned in Matsya Purana and Bhagavata Purana. The hero of this story is Manu, the man whom the god Vishnu warned of the coming flood, taking the form of Matsya, the fish, and guided Manu to build an ark to save himself, his family, and some living creatures. After the flood, Manu and his wife begin to recreate humanity and life on earth, and Manu becomes the first father of humanity in this new age.
The ancient copies of these Puranas are preserved in the libraries of Hindu temples and in collections of ancient manuscripts in New Delhi and Bangalore, confirming that this story is part of the old Indian heritage and the myths passed down through the centuries. And it is the same as the flood story in the Epic of Gilgamesh… no one comes and says then it confirms the flood, understand, everyone claims the ship landed in their place: the Indians say it landed with them, the Middle East has another place, and the same story, the ship landed in each place, just like the scratched door that every village claims to have.
Finally… the broken record that is repeated all the time like saying "by the power of God," either all are by the power of God or all are myths, why should your story alone be by the power of God, and then if you have intelligence you will understand that the later storyteller just collected the myths of the ancients, as Al-Nadr ibn Al-Harith said to Muhammad, and in contrast, Muhammad executed him as the only intellectual among the captives of the Battle of Badr, perhaps a mutation among the intelligence mutations at that time, but Muhammad killed him. The same applies also to Christian myths and other religions, for Al-Nadr ibn Al-Harith's statement was strong at the time when he said to Muhammad that these are the myths of the ancients. Otherwise, how can the spider be with Felix and Muhammad… and the basket thrown in the river with Moses and Sargon also, and why even change the names in each story…
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Regards:
Mohsen Ezz El-Din Al-Bakri
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(Dec 23, 2025 06:33 AM)Mohsen Ezz El-Din Al-Bakri Wrote: Myths… The Clawed Door

In the mountainous areas of southwest Yemen, where I belong, a strange story repeats itself about a house at the end of the village. They say that a tiger attacked it and scratched its door with its claws, and the marks are still visible today, even though the wood is from sidr or ilb, which cannot be pierced by a nail except with great effort due to their hardness. What is remarkable is that most villages in the neighboring areas tell the same story, so every village has its own scratched door
, and I do not know, perhaps this story extends throughout all the mountainous regions of Yemen, where tigers used to live side by side with the villages in the surrounding hills and mountains.
The strange thing is that the marks mentioned in these stories as tiger claw marks actually mostly date back to the time the wood itself was cut, since the carpenter and the house owner accepted whatever wood was available with its flaws, without tools for polishing or perfect finishing. Every natural scratch or crack in the wood later became a "tiger claw" in the memory of the village. Especially the house on the outskirts of the villages, although these marks exist on the doors of other houses as well, but mythical thinking is like that and does not scrutinize
Once, a conversation occurred between me and someone, fortunately a thoughtful young man, otherwise we would have continued our discussion in the hospital or the grave : "He said, the tiger scratched a door of ilb -(sidr)- impossible for a tiger to scratch a door of sidr!" with its strength and durability. I said to him: "By the power of God." He looked at me in astonishment, so I continued smiling: I told him all religious stories are the same as the scratched door this Either all of them are by the power of God or all of them are myths.
Just our ancestors… I do not know where they were riding on them when prophecy was divided between the Arabs and the Israelites… otherwise, if we had a prophet, we would have had the Chapter of the Scratched Door and you would defend it and curse anyone who denies or doubts it
Sargon of Akkad was placed by his mother in a wooden basket on the Euphrates River, and the shepherd Aqi found him and took him to the king’s house, where he lived and was raised. When he grew up, he became king of Akkad and established a large empire. This story is found in Akkadian cuneiform inscriptions preserved in the Louvre Museum in Paris, and in the epic of his birth written on clay tablets in the Iraq Museum in Baghdad.
Moses was born in Egypt and placed in a basket on the banks of the Nile to escape Pharaoh, and the people of Pharaoh found him and raised him, and he grew up to lead the Israelites out of Egypt. Same story as the scratched door and the tiger that did not leave a village without scratching its door.
Shubshi Nergal, the Babylonian sufferer, lost his health and family, endured torture, and called upon the god Marduk, who saved him, and he lived to return strong. This story exists in Babylonian cuneiform texts preserved in the Berlin Museum and the Louvre, and is part of the famous "Shubshi Nergal" epic. Same story as the prophet Job.
Felix the Nulli fled from the emperor and hid in a cave with his companion. The dove and the spider came and built a residential complex at the cave door . And the pursuers came and said he could not be here, and the spider wove on the cave door and the dove built her nest. This story exists in European medieval manuscripts, preserved in the Vatican libraries and some national museums in France and Germany. Same story as Prophet Muhammad and Abu Bakr hiding in the Cave of Thawr.
Noah built an ark before the flood, gathering a pair of each species and his believing family, and survived the flood to start a new life on earth. This story exists in religious and archaeological texts, such as the Akkadian flood epic on cuneiform tablets preserved in the Iraq Museum and the Louvre.
In Hindu mythology, there is a global flood similar to Noah's flood, mentioned in Matsya Purana and Bhagavata Purana. The hero of this story is Manu, the man whom the god Vishnu warned of the coming flood, taking the form of Matsya, the fish, and guided Manu to build an ark to save himself, his family, and some living creatures. After the flood, Manu and his wife begin to recreate humanity and life on earth, and Manu becomes the first father of humanity in this new age.
The ancient copies of these Puranas are preserved in the libraries of Hindu temples and in collections of ancient manuscripts in New Delhi and Bangalore, confirming that this story is part of the old Indian heritage and the myths passed down through the centuries. And it is the same as the flood story in the Epic of Gilgamesh… no one comes and says then it confirms the flood, understand, everyone claims the ship landed in their place: the Indians say it landed with them, the Middle East has another place, and the same story, the ship landed in each place, just like the scratched door that every village claims to have.
Finally… the broken record that is repeated all the time like saying "by the power of God," either all are by the power of God or all are myths, why should your story alone be by the power of God, and then if you have intelligence you will understand that the later storyteller just collected the myths of the ancients, as Al-Nadr ibn Al-Harith said to Muhammad, and in contrast, Muhammad executed him as the only intellectual among the captives of the Battle of Badr, perhaps a mutation among the intelligence mutations at that time, but Muhammad killed him. The same applies also to Christian myths and other religions, for Al-Nadr ibn Al-Harith's statement was strong at the time when he said to Muhammad that these are the myths of the ancients. Otherwise, how can the spider be with Felix and Muhammad… and the basket thrown in the river with Moses and Sargon also, and why even change the names in each story…
……
Regards:
Mohsen Ezz El-Din Al-Bakri

Most belief systems met through the Silk Road. This can be proven by looking at the routes taken for trade and looking at where cross roads occurred (since those places likely had cities which likely had markets) In some of those locations it's obvious that different belief systems didn't just originate but found there way to, which implies that the original religious groups actually studied each others philosophy, systems etc so as to better interact with one another (as well as likely due to superstition as to which beliefs might be real from their perspective).

As some of those beliefs would be stories orally told, it meant that they would transverse back and forth along those routes, which in turn would mean changes in how the stories were interpreted due to language differences. That's why you can have many stories that are literally the same story, but told slightly differently to it a particular culture better than the original story.
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