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AI safety advocate linked to multiple murders
https://futurism.com/ai-safety-murders-zizians
INTRO: Ziz LaSota, an AI safety advocate who sometimes ran in mainstream circles but held views that were both puzzling and extremist, exploded into the national press earlier this year when her adherents allegedly killed a Border Patrol agent.
As the New York Times reports, leveler heads from the so-called "Rationalist" movement that birthed the "Zizans," as LaSota's followers are called, have grown concerned about rhetoric that may have inspired the alleged cult leader.
"There’s this all-or-nothing thing, where AI will either bring utopia by solving all the problems, if it’s successfully controlled, or literally kill everybody," Anna Salamon, the director of the nonprofit Center for Applied Rationality (CFAR) at the heart of the Rationalist movement, told the paper.
"From my perspective," Salamon said, "that’s already a chunk of the way toward doomsday cult dynamics.”
Years before her ragtag group of outsiders allegedly killed their landlord, the parents of one of their own, and the Border Patrol agent, LaSota struck the CFAR director as someone who wanted to feel special, but struggled to do so within a scene full of rising stars.
Salamon said that she and LaSota, who she met soon after the vegan cult leader moved to the Bay Area to work in AI safety, would often go for long walks discussing the technology's existential risks.
Obsessed with the concept of "Roko's Basilisk," a ghoulish thought experiment imagining a future artificial superintelligence torturing its opponents for all eternity, LaSota squarely fell into the category of those who think AI will destroy the world — and thought it was her duty to stop it.
Both she and those who would come to follow her seemed to want to be the "main character," Salamon said, before discovering that wasn't going to happen within the confines of their chosen community... (MORE - details)
Ziz LaSota's AI cult left six dead – who is she? (The Sith of Silicon Valley)
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl...300286.cms
NEWS: Once upon a time in the cold expanse of Alaska, a homeschooled child stared at the aurora borealis and wondered if the world was real. Years later, that same child – taller than most men, cloaked in black, calling herself Ziz – would terrify Silicon Valley’s Rationalists, faking her own death, wielding a samurai sword, and leaving six bodies in her wake.This is the tale of Ziz LaSota, the transgender AI doomsday cultist who believed humanity would perish under artificial intelligence – unless she saved it first.
Born under northern lights, reborn in the shadow of AI. Ziz LaSota’s early life was unremarkable: eldest of three, father a university instructor, homeschooled through lonely Alaskan winters. But teenage depression twisted her mind inward. Puberty felt like death. She wrote that she was “horrified at being overwritten by a new self.” Logic became her religion. LessWrong and the Rationalist forums her sacred texts.At the University of Alaska, she read of “x-risk” – existential risk – and decided AI was the harbinger of humanity’s doom. She dropped out of graduate school and arrived in the Bay Area in 2016, ready to “save the world.”But Silicon Valley is a cruel temple for prophets. She was just another zealot in a city full of them.
The Sith emerges. She became Ziz: more than six feet tall, blond curls tumbling past her black cape, declaring her faith in the Sith – the dark side order of Star Wars.
She called Rationalists “master Jedi.” The community tolerated her eccentricities. After all, they believed AI could destroy us all. Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, Sam Bankman-Fried – they had all passed through the Rationalist forge.But Ziz took it further. Her blog listed categories of people to be “airlocked.” She advocated radical veganism, sleep deprivation rituals, and violent moral tests. She recruited a cadre of mostly transgender and nonbinary tech aspirants from Google, Oracle, NASA – they called themselves the Zizians. To them, Ziz was the messiah AI safety had awaited.
From cult to killing field. The timeline of blood is as absurd as it is tragic.
2019: Zizians don Guy Fawkes masks and robes to disrupt a Rationalist event in California. No guns were found, but SWAT stormed the venue. Arrests followed. Their chanting was described by police as “speaking in tongues.”
2020: In Vallejo, California, landlord Curtis Lind was stabbed with knives and a samurai sword after demanding unpaid rent. He shot two Zizians in self-defence. One died. Ziz faked her death by falling off a boat, her obituary running in Alaska newspapers.
2023: The parents of Michelle Zajko, a close Zizian, were found shot dead in Pennsylvania. Bullets matched Zajko’s gun, but evidence fell short. Ziz was arrested with them in a hotel, bailed out, and disappeared again.
2025: Lind was stabbed to death before he could testify against the group. Days later, in Vermont, two Zizians fired at Border Patrol agents. One agent and one Zizian died in the shootout.
The philosophy that eats itself. Rationalism always prided itself on logic untainted by emotion. But Ziz turned logic into madness. Roko’s Basilisk, the infamous AI thought experiment predicting torture for those who don’t create AI, haunted her. She believed any attempt to stop AI would condemn her to eternal torture by future malevolent superintelligences. Her solution: don’t back down, escalate, airlock the doubters.Eliezer Yudkowsky, the Rationalist guru who warned of AI extinction, called Ziz’s descent “sad,” writing that weirdness attracted weirder people, some of whom turned out to be “genuinely crazy and in a contagious way among the susceptible.”
The Rationalist reckoning. Today, Ziz sits in a Maryland jail, awaiting trial on gun, drug, and obstruction charges. She is not accused of wielding the murder weapons herself, but prosecutors say she orchestrated the violence. The Rationalist community is left with a bitter aftertaste. Was Ziz simply an unwell woman who found justification in AI apocalypse theory, or did Rationalism’s own doomsday fetish birth her? Zvi Mowshowitz, a Rationalist blogger, asked if Ziz would have simply created another cult if AI philosophy hadn’t ensnared her. “The odds are, like, 55 percent,” he guessed. But perhaps the final lesson is simpler, as one Rationalist writer put it: even if the world is ending in five years, you cannot live like it is. That way lies madness, murder, and a black-caped prophetess clutching a samurai sword under flickering fluorescent lights.
https://futurism.com/ai-safety-murders-zizians
INTRO: Ziz LaSota, an AI safety advocate who sometimes ran in mainstream circles but held views that were both puzzling and extremist, exploded into the national press earlier this year when her adherents allegedly killed a Border Patrol agent.
As the New York Times reports, leveler heads from the so-called "Rationalist" movement that birthed the "Zizans," as LaSota's followers are called, have grown concerned about rhetoric that may have inspired the alleged cult leader.
"There’s this all-or-nothing thing, where AI will either bring utopia by solving all the problems, if it’s successfully controlled, or literally kill everybody," Anna Salamon, the director of the nonprofit Center for Applied Rationality (CFAR) at the heart of the Rationalist movement, told the paper.
"From my perspective," Salamon said, "that’s already a chunk of the way toward doomsday cult dynamics.”
Years before her ragtag group of outsiders allegedly killed their landlord, the parents of one of their own, and the Border Patrol agent, LaSota struck the CFAR director as someone who wanted to feel special, but struggled to do so within a scene full of rising stars.
Salamon said that she and LaSota, who she met soon after the vegan cult leader moved to the Bay Area to work in AI safety, would often go for long walks discussing the technology's existential risks.
Obsessed with the concept of "Roko's Basilisk," a ghoulish thought experiment imagining a future artificial superintelligence torturing its opponents for all eternity, LaSota squarely fell into the category of those who think AI will destroy the world — and thought it was her duty to stop it.
Both she and those who would come to follow her seemed to want to be the "main character," Salamon said, before discovering that wasn't going to happen within the confines of their chosen community... (MORE - details)
Ziz LaSota's AI cult left six dead – who is she? (The Sith of Silicon Valley)
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl...300286.cms
NEWS: Once upon a time in the cold expanse of Alaska, a homeschooled child stared at the aurora borealis and wondered if the world was real. Years later, that same child – taller than most men, cloaked in black, calling herself Ziz – would terrify Silicon Valley’s Rationalists, faking her own death, wielding a samurai sword, and leaving six bodies in her wake.This is the tale of Ziz LaSota, the transgender AI doomsday cultist who believed humanity would perish under artificial intelligence – unless she saved it first.
Born under northern lights, reborn in the shadow of AI. Ziz LaSota’s early life was unremarkable: eldest of three, father a university instructor, homeschooled through lonely Alaskan winters. But teenage depression twisted her mind inward. Puberty felt like death. She wrote that she was “horrified at being overwritten by a new self.” Logic became her religion. LessWrong and the Rationalist forums her sacred texts.At the University of Alaska, she read of “x-risk” – existential risk – and decided AI was the harbinger of humanity’s doom. She dropped out of graduate school and arrived in the Bay Area in 2016, ready to “save the world.”But Silicon Valley is a cruel temple for prophets. She was just another zealot in a city full of them.
The Sith emerges. She became Ziz: more than six feet tall, blond curls tumbling past her black cape, declaring her faith in the Sith – the dark side order of Star Wars.
She called Rationalists “master Jedi.” The community tolerated her eccentricities. After all, they believed AI could destroy us all. Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, Sam Bankman-Fried – they had all passed through the Rationalist forge.But Ziz took it further. Her blog listed categories of people to be “airlocked.” She advocated radical veganism, sleep deprivation rituals, and violent moral tests. She recruited a cadre of mostly transgender and nonbinary tech aspirants from Google, Oracle, NASA – they called themselves the Zizians. To them, Ziz was the messiah AI safety had awaited.
From cult to killing field. The timeline of blood is as absurd as it is tragic.
2019: Zizians don Guy Fawkes masks and robes to disrupt a Rationalist event in California. No guns were found, but SWAT stormed the venue. Arrests followed. Their chanting was described by police as “speaking in tongues.”
2020: In Vallejo, California, landlord Curtis Lind was stabbed with knives and a samurai sword after demanding unpaid rent. He shot two Zizians in self-defence. One died. Ziz faked her death by falling off a boat, her obituary running in Alaska newspapers.
2023: The parents of Michelle Zajko, a close Zizian, were found shot dead in Pennsylvania. Bullets matched Zajko’s gun, but evidence fell short. Ziz was arrested with them in a hotel, bailed out, and disappeared again.
2025: Lind was stabbed to death before he could testify against the group. Days later, in Vermont, two Zizians fired at Border Patrol agents. One agent and one Zizian died in the shootout.
The philosophy that eats itself. Rationalism always prided itself on logic untainted by emotion. But Ziz turned logic into madness. Roko’s Basilisk, the infamous AI thought experiment predicting torture for those who don’t create AI, haunted her. She believed any attempt to stop AI would condemn her to eternal torture by future malevolent superintelligences. Her solution: don’t back down, escalate, airlock the doubters.Eliezer Yudkowsky, the Rationalist guru who warned of AI extinction, called Ziz’s descent “sad,” writing that weirdness attracted weirder people, some of whom turned out to be “genuinely crazy and in a contagious way among the susceptible.”
The Rationalist reckoning. Today, Ziz sits in a Maryland jail, awaiting trial on gun, drug, and obstruction charges. She is not accused of wielding the murder weapons herself, but prosecutors say she orchestrated the violence. The Rationalist community is left with a bitter aftertaste. Was Ziz simply an unwell woman who found justification in AI apocalypse theory, or did Rationalism’s own doomsday fetish birth her? Zvi Mowshowitz, a Rationalist blogger, asked if Ziz would have simply created another cult if AI philosophy hadn’t ensnared her. “The odds are, like, 55 percent,” he guessed. But perhaps the final lesson is simpler, as one Rationalist writer put it: even if the world is ending in five years, you cannot live like it is. That way lies madness, murder, and a black-caped prophetess clutching a samurai sword under flickering fluorescent lights.