China: How do you lose 100 million people? (statistics)

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PETER ZEIHAN
https://youtu.be/EK8eLfbS3c4

VIDEO EXCERPTS: Chinese statisticians, government statisticians regularly opining now that they’ve over counted the population by at least 100 million people. And a lot of private estimates say that the over count could be as many as a half a billion. [...] The question is how do you lose that many people?

If you want to sum it up in one word, it’s fraud. Which the Chinese are very good at, especially at the government level...

[...] China is not nearly as economically developed as the United States. ... So there are fewer points where the government becomes aware of your existence. And birth is not one of them. A lot of people in China are still born in either rural hospitals or maybe not in hospitals at all.

[...] the local governments have lied about how many people have showed up for school because their government subsidies are based on the number of people in their province, and this is the primary method that they have for collecting census data.

[...] the Chinese ... grossly overestimated the number of people that they have that are 25 and under. ... if the Chinese want to fix this problem today, they won’t get more workers for another 25 years...

[...] everyone in China who’s over or under age 40 ... they’d have to basically have five kids if they were going to save the ethnicity this century. It’s that bad at this point. Can’t really fix that with policy.

[...] That could never happen here? ... one of the things that the Trump administration is doing with all of its cuts is basically going after statisticians ... we’re not collecting data anymore ... we are absolutely going the wrong way ... the idea that a government can function if it blinds itself, that’s a bit of a stretch...

How Do You Lose 100 Million People? ... https://youtu.be/EK8eLfbS3c4

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/EK8eLfbS3c4
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Quote: A lot of people in China are still born in either rural hospitals or maybe not in hospitals at all.

Seriously? Still born? Were they counting dead babies as living souls?

Freudian slip?

Don’t like this guy/author. Spider senses tingling.
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(May 27, 2025 03:31 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote: A lot of people in China are still born in either rural hospitals or maybe not in hospitals at all.

Seriously? Still born? Were they counting dead babies as living souls?

Freudian slip?

Don’t like this guy/author. Spider senses tingling.

He's not referring to stillbirth. Even in the US up to 1950, there were yet people being born outside of hospitals, with no formal documentation of having come into being.

I had an older relative who was born in a chicken house. Later (long before Islamic terrorism), they gave her items like a social security number and a driver's license on virtually word alone that she was a citizen. And unlike Lawrence Welk, she didn't speak with a foreign accent. (Despite being born in North Dakota, Welk didn't learn to speak English until he was 21.) Maybe she had a school certificate to offer -- remotely there might have been an electric utility bill with a name/address, since certainly there was no running water or telephone at her residence.
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