That's an unusual way to put it. Back in William James' day, they would do the opposite of associating sensory and private thought experiences with the spiritual (or figuratively calling the mental sciences as a whole the "spiritual sciences").
And there's a slight resonance of Kant there, in that if you flip "thing-in-itself" to "thing-outside-itself" you have what a sensory object is: A distinct item that is represented as existing as an external appearance (corporeal) -- an extrinsic appearance falling out of purely spatial (rather unifying or spiritual) relationships to other things (separated by the void in between).
Whereas we might usually regard the manifestations of consciousness as the internal states of outer matter or physical material (that kind of dualism or dual-aspectism), perhaps Buber created a different kind where experience (inner) and physical (outer) are combined into one aspect (that is the source of separation, I-It). And then introducing the unifying relationships (I-Thou, his version of "spiritual") as the actual second party.
To wit: "Experience is all physical, but these relationships involve a great deal of spirituality. The twofold nature of the world means that our being in the world has two aspects: the aspect of experience, which is perceived as I–It, and the aspect of relation, which is perceived as I–Thou."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_and_Thou#Premise
EXCERPT: Buber's main proposition is that we may address existence in two ways:
(1) The attitude of the "I" towards an "It", towards an object that is separate in itself, which we either use or experience.
(2) The attitude of the "I" towards "Thou", in a relationship in which the other is not separated by discrete bounds.
One of the major themes of the book is that human life finds its meaningfulness in relationships. In Buber's view, all of our relationships bring us ultimately into relationship with God, who is the Eternal Thou. Martin Buber said that every time someone says Thou, they are indirectly addressing God. People can address God as Thou or as God, Buber emphasized how, "You need God in order to be, and God needs you for that which is the meaning of your life."
Buber explains that humans are defined by two word pairs: I–It and I–Thou.
The "It" of I–It refers to the world of experience and sensation. I–It describes entities as discrete objects drawn from a defined set (e.g., he, she or any other objective entity defined by what makes it measurably different from other entities). It can be said that "I" have as many distinct and different relationships with each "It" as there are "Its" in one's life. Fundamentally, "It" refers to the world as we experience it.
By contrast, the word pair I–Thou describes the world of relations. This is the "I" that does not objectify any "It" but rather acknowledges a living relationship. I–Thou relationships are sustained in the spirit and mind of an "I" for however long the feeling or idea of relationship is the dominant mode of perception.
A person sitting next to a complete stranger on a park bench may enter into an "I–Thou" relationship with the stranger merely by beginning to think positively about people in general. The stranger is a person as well, and gets instantaneously drawn into a mental or spiritual relationship with the person whose positive thoughts necessarily include the stranger as a member of the set of persons about whom positive thoughts are directed. It is not necessary for the stranger to have any idea that he is being drawn into an "I–Thou" relationship for such a relationship to arise.
But what is crucial to understand is the word pair "I–Thou" can refer to a relationship with a tree, the sky, or the park bench itself as much as it can refer to the relationship between two individuals. The essential character of "I–Thou" is the abandonment of the world of sensation, the melting of the between, so that the relationship with another "I" is foremost.
Buber's two notions of "I" require attachment of the word "I" to a word partner. The splitting into the individual terms "I" and "it" and "thou" is only for the purposes of analysis. Despite the separation of "I" from the "It" and "Thou" in this very sentence describing the relationship, there is to Buber's mind either an I–Thou or an I–It relationship.
Every sentence that a person uses with "I" refers to the two pairs: "I–Thou" and "I–It", and likewise "I" is implicit in every sentence with "Thou" or "It". Each "It" is bounded by others and It can only exist through this attachment because for every object there is another object. The "Thou", on the other hand, has no limitations. When "Thou" is spoken, the speaker has no thing (has nothing), hence, "Thou" is abstract; yet the speaker "takes his stand in relation".
What does it mean to experience the world? One goes around the world extracting knowledge from the world in experiences betokened by "He", "She", and "It". One also has I–Thou relationships.
Experience is all physical, but these relationships involve a great deal of spirituality. The twofold nature of the world means that our being in the world has two aspects: the aspect of experience, which is perceived as I–It, and the aspect of relation, which is perceived as I–Thou.
May 15, 2025 09:09 PM
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2025 09:34 PM by Magical Realist.)
