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[Magical Realist]

There's several different kinds of status. A person can have a high social status, within their local social circle for example, but have no wealth, fame, prestige, etc..

Got it. So women go for the bad boy loser without possessions and a steady job AND for the higher status achiever with lots of possessions and a prestigious career. Makes perfect sense now. lol

I suspect hypergamy is a self-serving myth perpetuated by resentful straight men who just can't seem to get laid.

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Got it.

Syne thinks
Women aren't attracted to 'good boys' UNLESS THEY'RE RICH.
If, by 'good boys' he means misogynists then you get..
Women aren't attracted to misogynists UNLESS THEY'RE RICH.
Which seems entirely possible.
Edit ..

I suspect hypergamy is a self-serving myth perpetuated by resentful straight men who just can't seem to get laid.

And that..
Wimmins is humans too.

[Syne]

I expect a gay guy to not understand, but it's sad that a straight man of advanced years never learned.

"Bad boys" behave as if they are high status and our evolutionary psychology cannot tell the difference. There's also the fact that women want their children to have the best genes, and a strong masculine loser fits that evolutionary archetype better than a nerdy rich guy. Many women try to get the best of both worlds. Either cheating on their provider with a more masculine man or already having a child from a "bad boy" who wouldn't stick around, then finds the provider who will. It's not the mystery you make it out to be if you understand simple evolutionary psychology.

Women very often aren't even attracted to rich guys... but are attracted to their money and the status it can buy them. How you equate "good boy" to misogynist is anyone's guess. "Bad boys" are the prototypical misogynists. "Good boys" are the ones women get the "ick" from, as they are so nice and supplicating that women sense the ulterior motives. "Bad boys" are misogynists who are unafraid to be up front with their motives.

And it's not hard to understand. If you sense someone is always lying, wouldn't you be less trusting of them than the asshole who always tells you exactly what they think?
Well, look who I'm asking. Pansy men will always be resentful of self-confident men.

[Magical Realist]

"Bad boys" behave as if they are high status and our evolutionary psychology cannot tell the difference.

LOL No they do not. They drink lots of beer, smoke like chimneys, watch a lot of TV, and yell at their wives every night. And that's not hypergamy by any stretch. In fact it's just the opposite. And your theory explains none of this.

"Hypergamy is the act or practice of courting or marrying a person of higher socioeconomic or social class than oneself."

So instead of thinking up flimsy hyperrational excuses for why women aren't in your life, why not go out and meet some of them? You're not getting any younger, and they may actually surprise you if you give them half a chance.

[Syne]

Wow, MR doesn't even know what a "bad boy" is. 9_9
Sad that this is required:

A bad boy is a man who isn’t afraid to break the rules. This rugged rebel, staring stoically off in the distance in his Aviators atop his Harley, is often seen as sexually desirable in popular media—though he’ll probably break your heart if you date him.
- https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/bad-boy/

Think James Dean in Rebel without a Cause.

Like I said earlier, it's a man's own responsibility how much or how little women are in his life. There are no excuses, just a willingness or failure to take the initiative.
But I know how crap your reading comprehension is.

[Magical Realist]

Wow, MR doesn't even know what a "bad boy" is. 9_9
Sad that this is required:

LOL You were the one that earlier called the bad boys "masculine losers". So now they're not losers? Women now regularly riding off into their "happily ever after" with their James Dean protagonists? I think not. Ask any woman about that. The "bad boy" more often than not becomes a manipulative wife abuser trapping her in an enslaving relationship.

[Syne]

If only you could read, you would have been able to parse "strong masculine loser" as masculine but otherwise a loser.
Reread the definition I just gave you, moron. There is no "happily ever after" with a "bad boy" because "he’ll probably break your heart."

"Bad boys" don't typically commit, so talking about their wives or "enslaving relationships" is ignorantly contradictory.

Again, MR doesn't even understand what a "bad boys" is... even after you try to explain it to him. 9_9

[Magical Realist]

If only you could read, you would have been able to parse "strong masculine loser" as masculine but otherwise a loser.

Yep..bad boys typically are strong masculine losers. Bullies are too. That's what makes them abusive to their women since it is precisely their "badness", their attractive indifference to any morals whatsoever and their narcissism, that eventually takes over.

"Bad boys" don't typically commit, so talking about their wives or "enslaving relationships" is ignorantly contradictory.

Bad boys don't stay single and independent bad boys forever either, especially as they grow older and shack up with women. Hence the widespread epidemic of domestic abuse across our country and women trapped in toxic relationships.

Of course all this is incidental to the fact that you conflate women's attraction to the bad boy with some sort of instinctive hypergamy. It is clearly not. They are precise opposites. Get a life and quit falsely projecting your fairy tale stereotypes on women.

[Syne]

What are you on about? No one's saying it's good to be a bad boy. It's just a fact that women like them. Accept that fact or don't.

You think "bad boys" are the primary abusers? Abusers tend to be insecure guys that feel like they have to prove their masculinity, authority, etc.. Man, do you know anything about people at all?

Men marry because that's how they secure access to sex. Bad boys don't marry because they can get sex without commitment. That's how the economics of the sexual marketplace work. You get what you want for as little as you can manage to pay.

If women aren't attracted to bad boys due to evolutionary psychology, what is it? It's just stupid to hear a gay guy pontificate about heterosexual dynamics... when he's admitted that all he knows is from "romantic films and TV comedies and dimestore trash novels."

What a fucking joke.

[Magical Realist]

What are you on about? No one's saying it's good to be a bad boy. It's just a fact that women like them. Accept that fact or don't.

Where did I even imply otherwise? I'm just saying it's moronic to attribute women's attraction to the rebel type with some sort of hypothetical drive to marry into a higher socioeconomic status. Being married to a guy who rides a motorcycle and has no steady job is NOT being married into a higher class. So why are women (and men too) attracted to the bad boy type? Because we all innately admire the rebel and the non-conformist. Literature and film is filled with this type of character because we all love them, even though we recognize their self-destructive and tragic destinies. There doesn't need to be some sort of instinctive biological drive in women for this type. It's just the nature of the beast. The way it is..

You think "bad boys" are the primary abusers? Abusers tend to be insecure guys that feel like they have to prove their masculinity, authority, etc.. Man, do you know anything about people at all?

LOL Synthia valiantly defending the bad boy now. Thinking of your fantasy Johnny Depp are we?

Men marry because that's how they secure access to sex.

Not necessarily. At least not since the invention of internet porn and paper towels. Most men probably marry because they fall in love and seek to spend the rest of their lives with their chosen soulmate, as well as have kids. It is a far more rewarding and lasting experience than just sex.

Bad boys don't marry because they can get sex without commitment. That's how the economics of the sexual marketplace work. You get what you want for as little as you can manage to pay.

It's not all about sex. Even bad boys get lonely and crave the intimacy and companionship of a wife. They also probably want kids at some point too. It's just natural...

If women aren't attracted to bad boys due to evolutionary psychology, what is it?

Because it's a cultural archetype we have all been raised to admire and even emulate thru film and literature. You even mention James Dean. That pretty much shows how film has shaped your own concept of the bad boy.

It's just stupid to hear a gay guy pontificate about heterosexual dynamics... when he's admitted that all he knows is from "romantic films and TV comedies and dimestore trash novels."

It's the same exact place we all have learned what sexual roles to play and what societal ideals to emulate. It's where you learned it too. You certainly haven't learned anything from any personal experience. And being hetero, if that is what you really are, doesn't endow you with some flawless inner knowledge about women that I have no access to either. Yet here you are with a very rigid incel-like ideology about how women are and should be. Hmm...now where did THAT come from I wonder? lol

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