After cuts, scientist says U.S. science risks becoming a “backwater enterprise"

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After Cuts, Former NOAA Chief Scientist Says U.S. Science Risks Becoming a “Backwater Enterprise”
https://www.biographic.com/after-cuts-fo...nterprise/

EXCERPT: The United States passed the Federal Ocean Acidification Research and Monitoring Act, establishing, among other things, NOAA’s Ocean Acidification Program. Over the subsequent 15 years, this program’s small team has partnered with universities and scientific institutions around the world to study how to protect oceans and marine life, and the millions of people who depend on them for food and fortune. It’s one small part of NOAA’s overall work measuring greenhouse gas emissions, modeling the global climate, monitoring and protecting fish and marine mammals, restoring and protecting coastlines from erosion and floods, providing marine navigation data, and even predicting space weather.

Sarah Cooley had worked alongside the Ocean Acidification Program for its entire existence—from her early career as a researcher to her more recent role as a senior director at the nonprofit Ocean Conservancy. “I was one of the external partners pointing to the work that this program was doing and working with Congress to make sure there was adequate funding for the science that needed to be done,” she says.

The firings were spurred by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)—a Trump administration effort that has no authorization from Congress but has so far fired tens of thousands of federal workers. DOGE has also proposed canceling leases on NOAA offices and research facilities and on numerous other federal properties across the country. According to multiple reports, NOAA is bracing for another round of firings which could, when combined with previous job losses, mean NOAA’s staff shrinks by a fifth.

Scientists abroad who work with NOAA are sounding the alarm about the cuts and firings. Jean-Pierre Gattuso, an oceanographer with the French National Centre for Scientific Research and Sorbonne University who frequently collaborates with NOAA researchers, says the agency’s roles in global ocean and atmospheric research are “absolutely essential.”

“I find the situation at NOAA … very, very concerning,” he says. “I think it will hurt the U.S. a lot. It’s very sad, this situation.”

Craig McLean, who was NOAA’s assistant administrator for research from 2015 to 2022, worries the Trump administration’s policies will turn the United States’ ocean science efforts into a “backwater enterprise.” (MORE - missing details)
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Doesn't surprise me in the least. MAGA will probably start changing science textbooks soon..

"As of 2019, 34% of conservative Republicans accepted evolution compared to 83% of liberal Democrats."
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NOAA has been part of the climate politicization for years. Take what they say with a bucket of salt water.
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Before MAGA, transitioning from fossil fuels to renewable sources of energy was just common sense that both Democrats and Republicans agreed on. Then they came along and politicized it, opposing it just because Democrats are for it. Why else would anyone oppose it?
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You're delusional. If both sides had already agreed, it would have already happened.
Apparently you can't even remember history you lived through.
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Magical Realist Online
If you don't think the rich oil company lobby isn't big and powerful in Washington, then you're an idiot.
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(Mar 14, 2025 10:41 PM)C C Wrote: After Cuts, Former NOAA Chief Scientist Says U.S. Science Risks Becoming a “Backwater Enterprise”

Compared to what? What country mounts a stronger ocean science effort than the United States?

Nobody has proposed that NOAA be shut down. It's simply been trimmed slightly. There's no reason why they can't adjust, simply by becoming more efficient. NOAA has more than 12,000 employees and so far about 800 have been laid off. (That's not 10% as the opinion piece CC posted alleges, it's less than 7%.)

Government employees seem to think that not only are they immune from layoffs, but also that their departmental budgets are ratchets, that can only go up (every year they demand additional funding) and can never go down. That's a big part of why the US runs deficits that threaten to bankrupt the country. And it's completely unlike what happens in private industry.

Quote:The firings were spurred by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)—a Trump administration effort that has no authorization from Congress but has so far fired tens of thousands of federal workers.

DOGE has no authority to fire anyone. It simply makes recommendations to the appropriate Executive Branch agencies, such as the Department of Commerce in NOAA's case.

Quote:DOGE has also proposed canceling leases on NOAA offices and research facilities and on numerous other federal properties across the country.

Consolidating operations in fewer facilities is another way of making them more efficient.

Quote:Scientists abroad who work with NOAA are sounding the alarm about the cuts and firings. Jean-Pierre Gattuso, an oceanographer with the French National Centre for Scientific Research and Sorbonne University who frequently collaborates with NOAA researchers, says the agency’s roles in global ocean and atmospheric research are “absolutely essential.”

So why hasn't France taken a stronger leadership role? Once again, just as with NATO, we have Europeans acting like the United States is a global public utility, funded by the US taxpayers for everyone else's benefit.

Of course we are only talking about less than 7% cuts, so NOAA isn't going anywhere. And it will almost certainly remain stronger than France's ocean science efforts. Probably more than the entire combined EU's. I'd be happy if Europe became the world leader in ocean science. It would be good for world science, and it wouldn't turn the US into a backwater at all. It won't happen though, because Europe won't devote the necessary resources to make it happen. They expect the US to do it and shriek deafeningly if they see us shirking what they insist is our duty.

Quote:Craig McLean, who was NOAA’s assistant administrator for research from 2015 to 2022, worries the Trump administration’s policies will turn the United States’ ocean science efforts into a “backwater enterprise.

That's just the-sky-is-falling hyperbole. Not unlike global warming hysteria actually.
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(Mar 16, 2025 01:10 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: If you don't think the rich oil company lobby isn't big and powerful in Washington, then you're an idiot.

So you believe all the Republicans used to want renewable energy, but they were paid off by big oil?
Conspiracy theory. 9_9
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