Article Donald Trump reignites the lightbulb wars

[Syne]

You're talking about the lower middle class, where they have just enough that some planning helps them stretch it further. If you ever knew a single very poor person, you wouldn't be asking for proof. The very poor can't afford to "buy in bulk," even if they wanted to. It's simply too much money at one time.

You're basically saying "let them eat cake," only it's "let them buy LEDs."

Come back when you've developed some empathy or crawled out from under your privileged rock and rubbed elbows with the truly poor.

[Magical Realist]

You're basically saying "let them eat cake," only it's "let them buy LEDs."

Yes..I'm the one that wants them to save money. That is not a vice. I am also the one that is for food stamps and tax rebates and housing subsidies and education grants and affordable healthcare and temporary financial assistance. Remember you're the one that says they are all losers who just need to quit being lazy and work harder to get out of poverty. That's your solution.

Come back when you've developed some empathy or crawled out from under your privileged rock and rubbed elbows with the truly poor.

You're the last person to speak for them. Your hatred for them and judgment of them only serves to hold them down and keep them from climbing out of their poverty. But buying 25 bulbs as opposed to one isn't going to do that. Spending less and saving more over time is the only way out of poverty. As if you ever cared about that.

[Syne]

Vice? Do you not even understand that historical quote? 9_9

Believe it or not, you have to have enough money to be able to save money. You know, what poor people don't have enough of. Enabling them with fewer things they have to pay for doesn't solve the problem of them not earning enough.

Unlike you, I have actually been poor, which is why I know what I'm talking about and you're just a pompous ass talking down to them.
Again, if you knew anything about being poor, you'd know that the immediate purchase price is the only concern.

[stryder]

Vice? Do you not even understand that historical quote? 9_9

Believe it or not, you have to have enough money to be able to save money. You know, what poor people don't have enough of. Enabling them with fewer things they have to pay for doesn't solve the problem of them not earning enough.

Unlike you, I have actually been poor, which is why I know what I'm talking about and you're just a pompous ass talking down to them.
Again, if you knew anything about being poor, you'd know that the immediate purchase price is the only concern.

"Give a man a incadencent bulb and you light him for days; teach a man to save for an LED bulb and you light him for at least 1000hrs" (And its cheaper too)

[Magical Realist]

Vice? Do you not even understand that historical quote? 9_9

Believe it or not, you have to have enough money to be able to save money. You know, what poor people don't have enough of. Enabling them with fewer things they have to pay for doesn't solve the problem of them not earning enough.

Unlike you, I have actually been poor, which is why I know what I'm talking about and you're just a pompous ass talking down to them.
Again, if you knew anything about being poor, you'd know that the immediate purchase price is the only concern.

"Give a man a incadencent bulb and you light him for days; teach a man to save for an LED bulb and you light him for at least 1000hrs" (And its cheaper too)

Synthia doesn't believe the poor are smart enough or self-disciplined enough to save money. He claims to know this because he used to be one of them. So by pushing short-lived higher power consuming incandescent bulbs, Trump is really just helping the poor out. That's MAGA logic in action! lol

[Syne]

It's obvious you've never been in that position. Like I said, learn a little empathy.

And to the complete contrary. I used to be poor. That literally means that the poor can get out of poverty. And the biggest first step isn't saving the few pennies you can find to rub together. It's working and gaining marketable skills. All the welfare programs in the world won't magically grant you those.

But do go on. Keep demonstrating how privileged, pitiless, superior, and out of touch you are with the realities of being truly poor.

[stryder]

In other News Trump has overturned the Drinking star ban on single use plastics. The reason he might suggest is due to "liberal wokeism" however it's actually more to do with emulating Nixons Milk Money in the Watergate scandal (wikipedia.org)

Creating more use for Oil and Oil related products is all about profiteering (or emulating the Oil Barony of the 1970's) the problem that Trump hasn't considered though is that there is actually scientific speculation that plastics could be responsible for a mixture of conditions like ADHD and even turning people Transgender.

It would require further human testing, however if proven it would suggest the number of Trans-related people in recent years has been down to plastics and it means that its not actually a personal choice but a product of ecodystopian profiteering. It would suggest that a general class action suit aimed at oil producers and plastic manufacturers could well be on the cards in the near future. Anyone with Trans tendencies could well make money from the damage oil and plastics has caused them.

related:
ADHD and Sexual promiscuity in Crabs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-58160697
https://news.sky.com/story/hermit-crabs-...n-12377812

[Magical Realist]

It would suggest that a general class action suit aimed at oil producers and plastic manufacturers could well be on the cards in the near future. Anyone with Trans tendencies could well make money from the damage oil and plastics has caused them.

I remember walking around in my mom's high heels once when I was like 4. I think I need to file a claim on this..

[Syne]

Wow, that's quite the conspiracy theory. As far as I know, Trump isn't personally invested in oil in any significant way. Yes, big oil did contribute a lot to his campaign, but that's because he was the only pony in the race aligned with their interests. So why is he aligned with their interests when he doesn't stand to profit personally? The same reason many rational people are. Fossil fuels are the cheapest energy, and limiting the supply to artificially benefit renewables hurts the poorest the most and dampens the economy in general (as it's required to move most goods). Feds Admit Fossil Fuels Are Still the Cheapest

As far as straws go, it couldn't possibly be that plastic is superior, in durability and cost. So you pay more for paper straws and often need more than one to replace a single plastic straw. And where's the concern for the trees gone? We'd suddenly rather lose trees than drill oil? Using a superior product has nothing to do with fighting wokeness.

Speculation is useless, even if you preface it with "scientific." Unless there are facts that show causality, it's just as likely to be politically motivated crap. Plastics have been in use far longer than the advent of ADHD and transgenderism. Not only would you have to show a causal mechanism, but you'd also have to explain the arbitrary timing. Anyone with trans tendencies has been abused, often by parents, teachers, and doctors. Those are the only legit targets for trans lawsuits.

And if you think "sexual promiscuity" is somehow linked to trans, you've got issues.

[Syne]

Yeah, I didn't expect MR to have the intellectual honesty or moral clarity to admit that he's too privileged to understand being poor.
Apparently, he won't believe someone's actual experience... even though he believes the "experiences" of every UFO nut.