A 3rd Trump assassination attempt aborted?

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Third assassination attempt on Donald Trump? Armed man arrested from Coachella
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl...196656.cms

PRESS RELEASE: A man armed with guns and fake passes were arrested on Saturday outside Donald Trump's Coachella rally site at the last minute, reports said, citing the local sheriff. The suspect was caught about a mile from the rally venue with a phony-entry pass, according to police. He was also carrying a loaded shotgun, handgun and high capacity magazine. “We probably stopped another assassination attempt,” Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said, as quoted by New York Post.

The suspect has been identified as Vem Miller, who was carrying a fake press card and entry pass. He is believed to be a member of a rightwing anti-government organization and was plotting to kill Trump, the Sheriff said. "They were different enough to cause the deputies alarm," Bianco said.

Miller is believed to be a member of a rightwing anti-government organization. A 49-year-old resident of Las Vegas, Miller was arrested at a checkpoint driving a black SUV. There have been two attempts on Trump's life and at the Coachella rally, Trump was speaking from behind the bulletproof glass.

Miller is a registered Republican who holds a master’s degree from UCLA, and who ran for state assembly in Nevada in 2022, a report said.

Bianco said Miller considers himself a so-called sovereign citizen, a group of people who do not believe they are subject to any government statutes unless they consent to them.

He was released Saturday on $5,000 bail and is scheduled to appear at the Indio Larson Justice Center on Jan. 2, 2025, according to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department inmate database.

The Secret Service put out a brief statement saying it was aware of the arrest. “The incident did not impact protective operations. The Secret Service extends its gratitude to the deputies and local partners who assisted in safeguarding last night’s events,” the agency said.

On July 13, Trump was shot at by Matthew Crooks in Butler, Pennsylvania. Crooks was killed by the Secret Service. In September, Ryan Wesley Routh was arrested for attempting to kill trump at a golf course. Agents spotted the barrel and fired first.
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Who Is Vem Miller? Man Arrested With Loaded Gun Outside Trump Rally
https://www.newsweek.com/who-vem-miller-...ly-1968341

EXCERPT: . . . Meanwhile, Miller told the Southern California News Group on Sunday that he was "shocked" to be arrested and accused of trying to hurt the former president, whom he is a supporter of.

Miller said he was at the California rally on a "special entry pass" given to him by a Republican Party associate, and that he never had trouble when he attended Trump rallies in Nevada with weapons in his trunk. He said he thought the law would be the same in California.

Bianco said of Saturday's incident: "I thought it's not going to happen in Riverside County. We don't have the same sicko issues and violent protests like they have in Los Angeles. We're better than that. Go figure."

The Sheriff praised his deputies, who worked in the desert heat, which reached almost 100 degrees that day. "I am extremely proud of the mental and physical effort our deputies showed all day," Bianco said.

The Secret Service said in a statement: "The incident did not impact protective operations. The Secret Service extends its gratitude to the deputies and local partners who assisted in safeguarding last night's events." (MORE - details)
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Why would a guy who believes he’s not subject to any government statutes give a damn about who is president?

Edit: Only thing I can think of is…… Miller and his cronies won’t get away with half their crap with Trump as Prez.
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stryder Offline
(Oct 14, 2024 08:00 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Why would a guy who believes he’s not subject to any government statutes give a damn about who is president?

Edit: Only thing I can think of is…… Miller and his cronies won’t get away with half their crap with Trump as Prez.

It was suggested he had claimed that he was a reporter/investigator in regards to his own podcast/stream. So it's likely that the fake plates, passport, pass and a trunk full of weaponry was really just to see if the secret service had actually been scaled up or not (If he'd got through, he'd likely of reported it to his fans.)

As for Trump being Prez... If he truly has had 3 people "Attempt" on his life while just being a threat of being one, how many more do you think will come out of the woodwork if he wins?
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Syne Offline
Depends on how much more Trump derangement vitriol the left is going to spew. Trump was already president for four years, and wasn't a dictator and didn't end democracy. So it's only the left's fear-mongering rhetoric that incites such people. Just like they did with the BLM riots.
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(Oct 15, 2024 03:21 AM)Syne Wrote: Depends on how much more Trump derangement vitriol the left is going to spew. Trump was already president for four years, and wasn't a dictator and didn't end democracy. So it's only the left's fear-mongering rhetoric that incites such people. Just like they did with the BLM riots.

... And what of when he lost? Vote rigging claims, Capital Hill beseiged, retracting funding for the EPA, Expediating the removal of troops from Afghanistan without taking into consider the logistics required to do so within the time window and all the other shenanigans.

It's all very well to remember the times you think were great and miss all the times he literally fucked up.
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Syne Offline
(Oct 15, 2024 07:57 AM)stryder Wrote:
(Oct 15, 2024 03:21 AM)Syne Wrote: Depends on how much more Trump derangement vitriol the left is going to spew. Trump was already president for four years, and wasn't a dictator and didn't end democracy. So it's only the left's fear-mongering rhetoric that incites such people. Just like they did with the BLM riots.

... And what of when he lost? Vote rigging claims, Capital Hill beseiged,
Nowhere near as violent or destructive as most individual BLM riots.

Quote:retracting funding for the EPA,
And? You think all bureaucracy should go completely unchecked?

Quote:Expediating the removal of troops from Afghanistan without taking into consider the logistics required to do so within the time window and all the other shenanigans.
That was Biden. He was the one who got soldiers killed at Abbey Gate and left untold US citizens and allies stranded.

Quote:It's all very well to remember the times you think were great and miss all the times he literally fucked up.
It's all very well if you could manage to get your facts even remotely straight.
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stryder Offline
(Oct 15, 2024 11:31 PM)Syne Wrote:
Stryder Wrote:Expediating the removal of troops from Afghanistan without taking into consider the logistics required to do so within the time window and all the other shenanigans.
That was Biden. He was the one who got soldiers killed at Abbey Gate and left untold US citizens and allies stranded.
That's naive, It was most certainly a flaming bag of turd set in motion just before his departure from office to make sure if Biden took over he wouldn't have it easy. Trump likely wouldn't have had the Taliban running around trying to expediate it further because of him brokering it, which means the stage was rigged.
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Magical Realist Offline
(Oct 16, 2024 09:28 AM)stryder Wrote:
(Oct 15, 2024 11:31 PM)Syne Wrote:
Stryder Wrote:Expediating the removal of troops from Afghanistan without taking into consider the logistics required to do so within the time window and all the other shenanigans.
That was Biden. He was the one who got soldiers killed at Abbey Gate and left untold US citizens and allies stranded.
That's naive, It was most certainly a flaming bag of turd set in motion just before his departure from office to make sure if Biden took over he wouldn't have it easy.  Trump likely wouldn't have had the Taliban running around trying to expediate it further because of him brokering it, which means the stage was rigged.

Yep..

"President Donald Trump ordered a rapid withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan and Somalia in the wake of his 2020 election loss, but senior officials never followed through on the plan, according to testimony released by the congressional January 6 committee on Thursday.

“The order was for an immediate withdrawal, and it would have been catastrophic,” said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., one of two Republican members of the special panel. “And yet President Trump signed the order.”


Witnesses who spoke to the committee about the surprise withdrawal plan included Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, former national security advisor to the vice president Keith Kellogg, and several other senior officials in the Trump.."---
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/penta...tion-loss/
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Syne Offline
(Oct 16, 2024 09:28 AM)stryder Wrote:
(Oct 15, 2024 11:31 PM)Syne Wrote: That was Biden. He was the one who got soldiers killed at Abbey Gate and left untold US citizens and allies stranded.
That's naive, It was most certainly a flaming bag of turd set in motion just before his departure from office to make sure if Biden took over he wouldn't have it easy.  Trump likely wouldn't have had the Taliban running around trying to expediate it further because of him brokering it, which means the stage was rigged.
Trump would not have removed military support before US citizens and allies were evacuated, nor would he have left all the military vehicles and weapons to the Taliban.

But you just keep making up bullshit to excuse Biden-Harris' complete debacle.

Biden delayed the May 1 withdrawal date that he inherited. But ultimately his administration pushed ahead with a plan to withdraw by Aug. 31, despite obvious signs that the Taliban wasn’t complying with the agreement and had a stated goal to create an “Islamic government” in Afghanistan after the U.S. left, even if it meant it had to “continue our war to achieve our goal.”
- https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeli...ghanistan/

The only who rigged the stage was Biden, by not holding them to the agreement.


(Oct 16, 2024 02:37 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Oct 16, 2024 09:28 AM)stryder Wrote: That's naive, It was most certainly a flaming bag of turd set in motion just before his departure from office to make sure if Biden took over he wouldn't have it easy.  Trump likely wouldn't have had the Taliban running around trying to expediate it further because of him brokering it, which means the stage was rigged.

Yep..

  "President Donald Trump ordered a rapid withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan and Somalia in the wake of his 2020 election loss, but senior officials never followed through on the plan, according to testimony released by the congressional January 6 committee on Thursday.

“The order was for an immediate withdrawal, and it would have been catastrophic,” said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., one of two Republican members of the special panel. “And yet President Trump signed the order.”


Witnesses who spoke to the committee about the surprise withdrawal plan included Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, former national security advisor to the vice president Keith Kellogg, and several other senior officials in the Trump.."---
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/penta...tion-loss/

Kinzinger is effectively a Democrat. And Milley calling Trump a fascist shows he's politically motivated as well.

Biden assured Americans last month that a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan was “not inevitable,” and denied that U.S. intelligence assessed that the Afghan government would likely collapse. But it did — and quickly.
- https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeli...ghanistan/

So Biden ignored the intelligence on the intelligence on the situation... likely because he couldn't understand it.
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