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The history of seeing the color blue

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"Ancient civilizations had no word for the color blue. It was the last color to appear in many languages, including Greek, Chinese, Japanese, and Hebrew. In The Odyssey, Homer describes the “wine-dark” sea. According to one linguist, every culture begins with words for dark and light. The next color described is red, then yellow and green, and finally blue.

Does this mean, as this video by Tech Insider asks, that you really can’t “see something if you don’t have a word for it”?

That may be the case. The Himba tribe in Namibia has no word for blue.

In an experiment, psychologist Jules Davidoff studied the Himba and concluded that without a word for a color, it is more difficult to differentiate that color from others. So even though our eyes could perceive the color blue, “we may not have noticed it was unique until much later.”----
https://www.good.is/Culture/ancient-civi...or-blue-rp

"Since the day we were born we have learnt to categorise objects, colours, emotions, and pretty much everything meaningful using language. And although our eyes can perceive thousands of colours, the way we communicate about colour – and the way we use colour in our everyday lives – means we have to carve this huge variety up into identifiable, meaningful categories.

Painters and fashion experts, for example, use colour terminology to refer to and discriminate hues and shades that to all intents and purposes may all be described with one term by a non-expert.


Different languages and cultural groups also carve up the colour spectrum differently. Some languages like Dani, spoken in Papua New Guinea, and Bassa, spoken in Liberia and Sierra Leone, only have two terms, dark and light. Dark roughly translates as cool in those languages, and light as warm. So colours like black, blue, and green are glossed as cool colours, while lighter colours like white, red, orange and yellow are glossed as warm colours.

The Warlpiri people living in Australia’s Northern Territory don’t even have a term for the word “colour”. For these and other such cultural groups, what we would call “colour” is described by a rich vocabulary referring to texture, physical sensation and functional purpose.

Remarkably, most of the world’s languages have five basic colour terms. Cultures as diverse as the Himba in the Namibian plains and the Berinmo in the lush rainforests of Papua New Guinea employ such five term systems. As well as dark, light, and red, these languages typically have a term for yellow, and a term that denotes both blue and green. That is, these languages do not have separate terms for “green” and “blue” but use one term to describe both colours, a sort of “grue”.


Historically, Welsh had a “grue” term, namely glas, as did Japanese and Chinese. Nowadays, in all these languages, the original grue term has been restricted to blue, and a separate green term is used. This is either developed from within the language – as is the case for Japanese – or through lexical borrowing, as is the case for Welsh.

Russian, Greek, Turkish and many other languages also have two separate terms for blue – one referring exclusively to darker shades, and one referring to lighter shades.

Greek speakers, who have two fundamental colour terms to describe light and dark blue, are more prone to see these two colours as more similar after living in the UK.


The way we perceive colours can also change during our lifetime. Greek speakers, who have two fundamental colour terms to describe light and dark blue (“ghalazio” and “ble”), are more prone to see these two colours as more similar after living for long periods of time in the UK. There, these two colours are described in English by the same fundamental colour term: blue.

This is because after long term everyday exposure to an English-speaking environment, the brain of native Greek speakers starts interpreting the colours “ghalazio” and “ble” as part of the same colour category."---
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180...urs-we-see
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Quote:That may be the case. The Himba tribe in Namibia has no word for blue.

They would have no problem with the old two color system of early color films. The 1933 movie Mystery of the Wax Museum was shot in that, and lacks any definitive blue. It's amazing how little one notices the absence, though, if you aren't thinking about or focused on that.

Here's a good example clip of it (Wray before King Kong): https://youtu.be/6E7LrHEwbzc

There are countless "narrowly discerned" colors that I can't remember the names of. Even if I wasn't so "color illiterate", I still couldn't correctly identify or distinguish "candy apple red" from "Boston University red". I really apprehend the array of them better in terms of hexadecimal code adjustments than via traditional nomenclature.

I figure that's the way some of these cultures are. Just as I lump finer shades into one of the basic color labels (below) when referring to them (or just call them greenish, bluish, reddish, etc) they classify the lot of them under the even fewer categories they have.

11 primary, secondary, and tertiary colors: Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Violet, Purple, Magenta, Pink, Brown, Gray

An alternative eleven: White, Black, Grey, Yellow, Red, Blue, Green, Brown, Pink, Orange, Purple
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Though I consider myself a connoissure of the cool colors green, blue, and violet, blue has always been my favorite. But I am woefully limited in knowing the various hues of such. I credit Crayon for educating me in my childhood in the subtleties of blue to some extent--cornflower, midnight blue, aquamarine, turquoise, violet blue, indigo. But I am sorely lacking beyond that.


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