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Article  Scientist claims we're simply characters in an advanced virtual world

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/...ve-it.html

EXCERPTS: . . . That's according to Melvin Vopson, an associate professor in physics at the University of Portsmouth. Our lives contains several clues that suggest we're merely characters in an advanced virtual world, he claims – and he's planning an experiment to prove it.

For example, the fact there's limits to how fast light and sound can travel suggest they may be governed by the speed of a computer processor, according to the expert. The laws of physics that govern the universe are also akin to computer code, he says, while elementary particles that make up matter are like pixels.

One of the most convincing clues, however, is the symmetry that we observe in the everyday world, from butterflies to flowers, snowflakes and starfish. Symmetry is everywhere because it's how the machines 'render the digitally constructed world', Professor Vopson told MailOnline. 'This abundance of symmetry (rather than asymmetry) in the universe is something that has never been explained,' he said.

[...] The academic also thinks the bizarre and little-understood world of quantum mechanics suggests life is not what it seems. Namely, he points to quantum entanglement – a weird physical phenomenon that legendary physicist Albert Einstein described as 'spooky action at a distance'.

[...] The professor explains: 'Quantum entanglement allows two particles to be spookily connected so that if you manipulate one, you automatically and immediately also manipulate the other, no matter how far apart they are – with the effect being seemingly faster than the speed of light, which should be impossible. This could, however, be explained by the fact that within a virtual reality code, all “locations” (points) should be roughly equally far from a central processor. So while we may think two particles are millions of light years apart, they wouldn’t be if they were created in a simulation.'

Professor Vopson has already argued that information is the fifth state of matter, behind solid, liquid, gas and plasma. This could be key to an experiment he hopes could prove that we are living in a computer simulation.

[...] Professor Vopson has outlined his hypothesis in a new book, published in September, called 'Reality Reloaded: The Scientific Case for a Simulated Universe'.

[...] In 2022, Melvin Vopson, an associate professor in physics at the University of Portsmouth, established a new law of physics, called the 'second law of information dynamics' to explain how information behaves. His law establishes that the 'entropy', or disorder, in a system of information decreases rather than increases.

This new law came as somewhat of a surprise, because it's the opposite of the second law of thermodynamics established in the 1850s, which explains why we cannot unscramble an egg or why a glass cannot unbreak itself. As it turns out, the second law of infodynamics explains the behaviour of information in a way that the old law cannot.

'The second law of infodynamics requires the minimisation of the information content associated with any event or process in the universe,' he told MailOnline. 'To put it simply, everything appears to evolve to an equilibrium state where the information content is minimal.

'Such behaviour is fully reminiscent of the rules deployed in programming languages and computer coding. Simulating a super complex universe like ours would require a built-in data optimisation and compression mechanism in order to reduce the computational power and the data storage requirements to run the simulation.

'This is exactly what we are observing via empirical evidence all around us, including in digital data, biological systems, atomistic systems, mathematical symmetries, and the entire universe. This is what the second law of infodynamics reveals, so one logical conclusion is that, while not giving a definite proof, it surely underpins the simulated universe theory.' (MORE - missing details)

Melvin Vopson interview ... https://youtu.be/lYwMX3KbGBI

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/lYwMX3KbGBI
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Is there any other way than having a simulation prove it’s a simulation? Spooky.

No offence intended but this is kind of what MR has mentioned a few times, there are ghosts not knowing they’re ghosts. Along those lines….Are we all ghosts of a past universe that disappeared a long time ago?

For religious folks….Maybe in that great cataclysm Hell survived but Heaven did not.

Could open up some new philosophical thought should some kind of proof be possible.
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(Dec 29, 2023 02:30 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Is there any other way than having a simulation prove it’s a simulation? Spooky.

No offence intended but this is kind of what MR has mentioned a few times, there are ghosts not knowing they’re ghosts. Along those lines….Are we all ghosts of a past universe that disappeared a long time ago?

For religious folks….Maybe in that great cataclysm Hell survived but Heaven did not.

Could open up some new philosophical thought should some kind of proof be possible.

What's lopsided with respect to Vopson's and the general culture's meme is the idea that a "generated reality" (one whose succession of brief states results from a process) is always a simulation of a "real world" and that the former is dependent upon computational technology (product of intelligent workmanship).

Given the view that particles are merely excitations occurring in 24 quantum fields, or alternatives even more exotic than the original "materialism" conception that matter is bits of literally moving "solid stuff" that join together like puzzle pieces in a void or "space" that truly is a container... Then there never has been an example of a "real material world" in a non-generated sense.

Granted, if we ever develop internally consistent, simulated realities with conscious inhabitants who don't know what they are, then that fact will make our own vulnerable in some statistical degree to the possibility that this realm is also outputted by the deliberate technology of another ontological level.

But due to a recursive fallacy, it's not desirable to repeat that same situation over and over -- like a Russian (nesting) doll -- as an explanation.

At some stratum you need something radically different (where that applicable world is not outputted and maintained by technology). And until evidence suggests otherwise, one might as well regard this reality as the foundational one that is riding on brute, non-invented fields (or whatever proposed non-artificial process or provenance is generating and maintaining those subatomic excitations).
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Good stuff CC.

There’s a line in the article that seems strange to me…..
Quote: One of the most convincing clues, however, is the symmetry that we observe in the everyday world,

Symmetry from Oxford: the quality of being made up of exactly similar parts facing each other or around an axis’

I think if guy wants to endorse symmetry he might want to figure out why I haven’t observed any anti-matter, has anyone? Perhaps symmetry doesn’t apply here…idk. Maybe the simulator is from an anti-matter universe and can’t directly contact ours. With that he might be closer to proving there’s more than one universe.
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