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Article  Insights for early steps of biological evolution on Mars (extraterrestrial geology)

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https://college.indiana.edu/newsroom/fac...ergen.html

PRESS RELEASE: That the planet Mars had habitable surface environments early in its existence has been firmly established by the scientific community. These environments provided water, energy sources, elements like carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, and sulfur, as well as critical catalytic transition metals associated with life as we know it. However, whether that potential stimulated further progression towards the independent evolution of life on Mars is unknown.

A team of scientists comprised of Juergen Schieber, a Professor in the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences within the College of Arts and Sciences at Indiana University Bloomington, and colleagues on NASA’s Curiosity Rover mission, uncovered the first tangible evidence for sustained wet-dry cycling on early Mars. The latter condition is considered essential for prebiotic chemical evolution, a stepping-stone towards the emergence of life.

In a new paper, “Sustained wet-dry cycling on early Mars,” published in the scientific journal Nature, Schieber and his co-authors utilized data from the Curiosity Rover that currently explores Gale Crater to examine ancient pattern of mudcracks filled with salt (geometric patterns like pentagons or hexagons) observed in 3.6 billion year old mudstones.

As mud dries out, it shrinks and fractures into T-shaped junctions – like what Curiosity discovered previously at “Old Soaker,” a collection of mud cracks lower down on Mount Sharp. Those junctions are evidence that Old Soaker’s mud formed and dried out once, while the recurring exposures to water that created the new mud cracks caused the T-junctions to soften and become Y-shaped, eventually forming a hexagonal pattern.

Although Professor Schieber’s main research interest is the geology of shales and mudstones on Earth, his interest in the underlying fundamentals prompted him to postulate an abundance of mudstones on Mars, and that got him into a conversation with people that were planning the Mars Science Lab (MSL) Curiosity Rover mission at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. “Given my expertise about these rocks I was invited to join the MSL science team, and since landing in August 2012, 11 years ago almost to the day, our traverse has been dominated by mudstones,” said Professor Schieber.

Sustained wet-dry cycling on Mars—a consequence of a repeated desiccation, recharge, and flooding, creates cracks in the lake bed and within those cracks high salt concentrations develop that force the crystallization of minerals left after the lake’s evaporation, and cementation of sediment. Ultimately this process was preserved as the polygonal (hexagon- or pentagon-shaped) patterns observed with the Rover. Due to desiccation, the residual water likely had high concentrations of dissolved salts and, potentially, of organic molecules that can serve as the building blocks of life.

“The theory is, that as these elements and organic molecules are forced closer and closer together with increasing salinity, they may start polymerizing and make longer chains, creating the conditions for spontaneous chemistry that may start the complex chemical evolution that could lead to living organisms,” said Schieber. “It is that mental image that got us excited when we observed these honeycomb-shaped, or polygonal, ridge patterns on the surface of mudstone beds. Here was evidence for wetting and drying that could drive interesting chemistry within the cracks.”

Knowing from earlier studies that likely residuals from the lake’s desiccation should be calcium and magnesium sulfate minerals, the team used the “Chemcam” instrument on the Curiosity Rover to probe the cemented ridges to confirm their chemical composition.

The sedimentary features of the mudstones that Schieber and his co-authors studied can be interpreted to have resulted from multiple wetting and drying cycles resulting in mineral precipitates—minerals left behind when water evaporates—stacked on top of each other over time. If organic molecules were present in residual brines, this setting may have been conducive to the evolution of more complex organic molecules and pre-biotic chemistry, the study authors report.
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Quote: These environments provided water, energy sources, elements like carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, and sulfur, as well as critical catalytic transition metals associated with life as we know it. However, whether that potential stimulated further progression towards the independent evolution of life on Mars is unknown.

Regardless the suggestion here is that life evolved from the inanimate. How does inanimate matter evolve? Is it driven by the environment like a life form? I wouldn’t think it would have an internal drive to survive since inanimate shouldn’t be alive to begin with.

I’ve always thought that any first life form must be perfectly adapted to its environment. Wouldn’t it also be required to….

Quote: … show certain attributes that include responsiveness, growth, metabolism, energy transformation, and reproduction.

I’m thinking there may be something missing in the life formula, whatever that may be…..idk. Mystery
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Z. Wrote:How does inanimate matter evolve?
Chemistry. Every reaction proceeds at a rate proportional to its probability. If we accept that planets like Earth and Mars actually exist then we have to accept that all the chemicals required for life are available in the same place and all you need to life to form is time. Water is the best thing for increasing the probability of reactions occurring so finding water on Mars greatly increases the probability of also finding something we might call 'life'. You could make oil (or bananas) using CO2 from the atmosphere (Mars atmosphere is 95% CO2) but plants do it much more conveniently. We only need to look at elephants to see that life is possible - the question remains - is it probable?

We occasionally hear about people finding things that greatly increase the chances of life type molecules forming - so far nothing conclusive. It may turn out to be a variation on the Nine Billion Names of God theme when we prove life cannot form - and we cease to exist.
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(Aug 13, 2023 12:09 PM)confused2 Wrote:
Z. Wrote:How does inanimate matter evolve?
Chemistry. Every reaction proceeds at a rate proportional to its probability. If we accept that planets like Earth and Mars actually exist then we have to accept that all the chemicals required for life are available in the same place and all you need to life to form is time. Water is the best thing for increasing the probability of reactions occurring so finding water on Mars greatly increases the probability of also finding something we might call 'life'. You could make oil (or bananas) using CO2 from the atmosphere (Mars atmosphere is 95% CO2) but plants do it much more conveniently. We only need to look at elephants to see that life is possible - the question remains - is it probable?

We occasionally hear about people finding things that greatly increase the chances of life type molecules forming - so far nothing conclusive. It may turn out to be a variation on the Nine Billion Names of God theme when we prove life cannot form - and we cease to exist.

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~ejchaisson...%20unsure.

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Quote:A third theory of life’s origin is known as chemical evolution. In this idea, pre-biological changes slowly transform simple atoms and molecules into the more complex chemicals needed to produce life. Favored by most scientists today, the central premise of chemical evolution stipulates that life arose naturally from nonlife. In this sense, the theories of chemical evolution and spontaneous generation are similar, but the timescales differ. Chemical evolution doesn’t occur suddenly; instead, it proceeds more gradually, eventually building complex structures from simpler ones. This modern theory then suggests that life originated on Earth by means of a rather slow evolution of nonliving matter. How slowly and when precisely we are unsure.

Without heat or cooling off does any of the above occur? Heard it was pretty hot at the BB but has most of chemical evolution taking place in stars? Why are stars required to form elements when the BB was pretty damn hot itself?
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(Aug 13, 2023 05:49 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
(Aug 13, 2023 12:09 PM)confused2 Wrote:
Z. Wrote:How does inanimate matter evolve?
Chemistry. Every reaction proceeds at a rate proportional to its probability. If we accept that planets like Earth and Mars actually exist then we have to accept that all the chemicals required for life are available in the same place and all you need to life to form is time. Water is the best thing for increasing the probability of reactions occurring so finding water on Mars greatly increases the probability of also finding something we might call 'life'.  You could make oil (or bananas) using CO2 from the atmosphere (Mars atmosphere is 95% CO2) but plants do it much more conveniently. We only need to look at elephants to see that life is possible - the question remains - is it probable?

We occasionally hear about people finding things that greatly increase the chances of life type molecules forming - so far nothing conclusive. It may turn out to be a variation on the Nine Billion Names of God theme when we prove life cannot form - and we cease to exist.

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~ejchaisson...%20unsure.

Excerpt:
Quote:A third theory of life’s origin is known as chemical evolution. In this idea, pre-biological changes slowly transform simple atoms and molecules into the more complex chemicals needed to produce life. Favored by most scientists today, the central premise of chemical evolution stipulates that life arose naturally from nonlife. In this sense, the theories of chemical evolution and spontaneous generation are similar, but the timescales differ. Chemical evolution doesn’t occur suddenly; instead, it proceeds more gradually, eventually building complex structures from simpler ones. This modern theory then suggests that life originated on Earth by means of a rather slow evolution of nonliving matter. How slowly and when precisely we are unsure.

Without heat or cooling off does any of the above occur? Heard it was pretty hot at the BB but has most of chemical evolution taking place in stars? Why are stars required to form elements when the BB was pretty damn hot itself?
As a rule of thumb the rate of a chemical reaction doubles for ever 10C temperature rise
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrhenius_equation
There's solvents, catalylsts and other stuff -it's complicated.

The big bang didn't form heavy elements (tiny bit of helium and even less lithium) because (it is proposed) spacetime expanded at such a rate that by the time it was cool enough for nucleosynthesis it rapidly became too cool (everything flying apart). I suspect the lack of heavy elements is more evidence of spacetime expansion (inflation) than anything anyone would have predicted - inflation is a possibility that ties the known evidence together.

Which leaves stars as the only way to turn hydrogen from the big bang into heavier elements and supernova as the only way for heavy elements to get from inside a star to planet Earth and us.
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