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Article  Does climate research have an anti-growth problem? (survey data)

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https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/doe...ve-an-anti

EXCERPTS: A just-released paper in Nature Sustainability by Lewis C. King and colleagues reports the results of a poll of climate researchers across disciplines and across the world on their view of “green growth,” defined as: “the desirability and feasibility of aligning environmental goals with continued economic expansion

The authors contrast green growth with “degrowth” which they define as “a deliberate and equitable reduction in material consumption and economic activity in high-income countries” and “agrowth” which they define as “agnosticism” towards green growth.

The survey results indicate that a majority of climate researchers do not support green growth, with a greater overall number supporting degrowth. These numbers are wildly out-of-step with the views of the broader public. Among researchers from different disciplines and regions there are also large differences. It is interesting to note that despite the apparent support for degrowth, scenarios of degrowth have not made their way into the IPCC. All such scenarios project significant future economic growth — which is an interesting counterpoint to the expressed views of much of the community.

Let’s take a look at some numbers. [...] Here we see that an overwhelming proportion of European researchers, in particular, do not support green growth, with researchers from North America and other OECD countries not far behind. Also of note, a majority of researchers from Brazil, Russia, India, China and other non-OECD countries do support green growth.

Only 7% of IPCC AR6 authors and review editors came from Least Developed Countries, those that are the poorest around the world. I’ll go out on a limb and suggest that 100% of these contributors are supporters of economic growth — green or any other color.

Indeed, King et al. show that degrowth support (and agnosticism) among climate researchers is centered among researchers from wealthy countries while support for green growth is centered among researchers from less wealthy countries. [...] It is easier to support degrowth when you are already rich... (MORE - missing details)
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The 'Bugs in a bottle' is apparently a not-so-well known scenario where bugs are allowed to reproduce (in a bottle!) - the population growth is initially exponential followed by a crash as all the resources in the bottle are exhausted. Climate scientists will doubtless be familiar with the scenario - the general public may either not be aware of it or think it doesn't apply to us (humans).
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