Reality Is Produced Mental Projection

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(Sep 1, 2015 10:36 PM)C C Wrote:
(Sep 1, 2015 04:28 PM)Parametric Wrote:
(Sep 1, 2015 04:07 PM)Yazata Wrote: I just reported this thread to Stryder in hopes that he will move it elsewhere. (It's the first time I've reported anything on Scivillage.)

Have you ever reported anything on sciforums? And if so how many times?


At SciForums Yazata would rarely (if ever) have much need to do so because of the ton of militant science enthusiasts residing there that will promptly do so. Here in underpopulated and accordingly either tolerant or vulnerable SciVillage, Yazata probably feels the place needs somebody to step up as a Neighborhood Watchman when Stryder might be preoccupied elsewhere.

In contrast to busy SciForums (where mis-categorized topics happen all the time), SciVillage hasn't had enough opinionated, thread-starting people at SciVillage for the statistical probability of this happening much yet. That is, of a topic that belongs in the culture-section or philosophy to be mis-posted in one of the science-only groups along with the additional element of attention being stirred to it.

Which is not to say that this topic is definitely mis-categorized (that's still open to debate and Stryder's judgement). But in science-specific forums, words like "God [...] creation?" and "mentally-produced etheric projection, or propulsion, of the smallest, and fastest, etheric units" can become buzz slash trigger words that garner such controversy over whether or not a topic has been submitted to the wrong group.

Again, if a new group like "Alternate ____" can be added to the cultural section (with maybe even CTMU mentioned among the welcome examples in its description), then potential mishaps can be remedied in the future (regardless of whether this is a legitimate instance of such or not).

Otherwise, the only available slots seem to be the rather pejorative "Junk Science" and "Logic and Philosophy". Yazata has already elsewhere expressed alarm at the possibility of the latter becoming as much a repository for numerous CTMU and "Reality is..." threads as in General Philosophy (etc) at SciForums. And "Weird and Beyond" is MR's turf for anomalous occurrences, etc. That is, it's highly questionable that such would be a good fit for CTMU and "Reality is..." subjects, anyway. Not to mention MR maybe feeling as skittish about diminishing topic diversity in the future of that sub-forum as Yazata was about it in Philosophy. Wink

 Well I hope I don't feel the full fledged power of is wrath as I'm still in the learning process. Though I feel this is a legitimate science topic.  Huh
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There is a very simple solution here Parametric. Just post stuff like this in the Philosophy section. I think that is all Yazata is objecting to. That such theorizing be included in a "Science" forum.
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Yazata Online
(Sep 2, 2015 01:08 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: There is a very simple solution here Parametric. Just post stuff like this in the Philosophy section. I think that is all Yazata is objecting to. That such theorizing be included in a "Science" forum.

I just asked a question:

What does the original post have to do with chemistry, physics or mathematics?
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(Sep 2, 2015 01:03 AM)Parametric Wrote: Well I hope I don't feel the full fledged power of is wrath as I'm still in the learning process.


Nah. Likely we've all fallen prey to the lingering effects of Sciforums Syndrome today (I, for sure). Speaking of which, no surprise as to how bizarre the thread / inquiry about MR's ban has gotten over there. On the plus side, the predictable sideshows have drifted kilometers away from concerning any of us.
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(Sep 2, 2015 04:45 AM)C C Wrote:
(Sep 2, 2015 01:03 AM)Parametric Wrote: Well I hope I don't feel the full fledged power of is wrath as I'm still in the learning process.


Nah. Likely we've all fallen prey to the lingering effects of Sciforums Syndrome today (I, for sure). Speaking of which, no surprise as to how bizarre the thread / inquiry about MR's ban has gotten over there. On the plus side, the predictable sideshows have drifted kilometers away from concerning any of us.

It was only yesterday that I realized that if I right click on the Sci Forums log off button and open it in an incognito window, that I could actually access Sci Forums again as a lurker. That thread IS ridiculous, but the defenses made for me are more eloquent and pointed than ever I could make. I just wonder what all this backroom conflict is about. I'm so over this I don't even think I'll ask why I was banned. I don't care anymore. I'll just do my usual thing and let the chips fall where they may. If even that.
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(Sep 2, 2015 10:10 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: It was only yesterday that I realized that if I right click on the Sci Forums log off button and open it in an incognito window, that I could actually access Sci Forums again as a lurker. That thread IS ridiculous, but the defenses made for me are more eloquent and pointed than ever I could make. I just wonder what all this backroom conflict is about. I'm so over this I don't even think I'll ask why I was banned. I don't care anymore. I'll just do my usual thing and let the chips fall where they may. If even that.


I see the mods are back to fighting each other in that thread. Unbelievable.

Some forums on the web are probably not a good advertisement for any claim that there would be less unrest in the world if proclaimed champions of rational thought and method were fully in charge. As if such a belief didn't get amply debunked in the 20th century. By a bevy of ideologically woo-free states that had the opportunity to demonstrate that they were not sinister and murdering goose-crazy like many of the weldings of folk traditions and political enterprises before them. "Say hello to the new boss. Same as the old boss."
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Michael Anteski sent me a pm in response to my question and it was very fascinating. I hope he doesn't mind if I share it.

Spellbound said: ↑
That reality is produced mental projection. I.e. that the world we see before us is a product of mind, and thus having no distinction from it. It would really clear things up for me if you can indulge me (either from info of the source material or in your own words).

Thank you,

Nick.

Nick:

I derived the "mental projection and production of our universe" concept as one part of codebreaking studies that I have been doing, using a historical Document. The sub-model of how a sapient Entity could have projected forces that produced the universe is rooted in a complicated mix of theoretic ideas which come together from this decoding work of mine.

The source of information I have used has proven absolutely consistent, internally, both in the scientific-theory area and the other branches of informational messaging I've obtained, although, like the scientific models, which hinge on the currently-unconventional "ether" concept, these messages often deviate from our present concepts or beliefs.

If you are open to the "ether" model, the idea of a creational entity being able to project, or produce, an energy "force" field is logical. -By "force" field, I am referring to the idea that beings beyond our earth-surface realms have long possessed an energy technology based on harnessing ether forces. They are "bathed" in an etherically-energized ambience that confers to them energic powers, in this case in particular mental powers, that can render them capable of energy-manipulating abilities which the likes of us earthlings don't even imagine are possible. (My term "force" field refers to my concept that ether energy is all around us. Everything is made of elemental etheric units. But technologically, beyond our earth technology experience, it is also possible to generate amplified field-levels of etheric energy, i.e., a "forced" field of ether energy)

I have gone into the theoretic details of an ether-model, as to how it would fit with our quantum scientific models, on earth, in a number of posts in the Forum, if you want to check into this more deeply.
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Yazata Online
I see that Stryder has made the move.

I just wish that he hadn't named this new forum 'Metaphysics'.

I guess that I have far more respect for metaphysics than others on this board do. (It isn't just another word for 'bullshit'.) I conceive of 'metaphysics' as the investigation into what's up with all kinds of ostensible kinds of being: logic, mathematics, subatomic particles, quantum mechanics, mind, ideas, word meaning, fictional entities, absences, necessity, possibilities, time, space, paradoxes, and so on.

Those kind of questions are what motivate me intellectually and are very close to my heart.
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(Sep 3, 2015 09:00 PM)Yazata Wrote: I see that Stryder has made the move.

I just wish that he hadn't named this new forum 'Metaphysics'.

I guess that I have far more respect for metaphysics than others on this board do. (It isn't just another word for 'bullshit'.) I conceive of 'metaphysics' as the investigation into what's up with all kinds of ostensible kinds of being: logic, mathematics, subatomic particles, quantum mechanics, mind, ideas, word meaning, fictional entities, absences, necessity, possibilities, time, space, paradoxes, and so on.

Those kind of questions are what motivate me intellectually and are very close to my heart.

I am seeing eye to eye with you. I have recently become a mystic. And thank you for including mathematics into the mix. It is equivalent to idea.
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(Sep 3, 2015 09:00 PM)Yazata Wrote: I see that Stryder has made the move. I just wish that he hadn't named this new forum 'Metaphysics'. I guess that I have far more respect for metaphysics than others on this board do. (It isn't just another word for 'bullshit'.) I conceive of 'metaphysics' as the investigation into what's up with all kinds of ostensible kinds of being: logic, mathematics, subatomic particles, quantum mechanics, mind, ideas, word meaning, fictional entities, absences, necessity, possibilities, time, space, paradoxes, and so on.Those kind of questions are what motivate me intellectually and are very close to my heart.


Still, it's not slotted under anything pejorative (broader General Science category rather than a distinction under narrower Junk Science classification). So its more esteemed function is still possible. But of course you're probably referring to it being colonized by assorted varieties of woo, gradually over time. Metaphysics subforums often wind-up sharing space with that, anyway, even on boards that specialize in philosophy. Excluding these non-casual, ultra-stern places like PhilosopyForums which at least feign having high standards or an academic bent.
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