Battlefield Phone Intercepts

[Zinjanthropos]

Plenty of vids available that apparently show Russian soldiers having their personal phone conversations intercepted. First thoughts are that this must be some high tech military device at work, only one side has it and not something civilians have at their disposal. How easy is it?

I wouldn’t allow my troops to carry their cell phones with them. Nothing like giving away your position or other valuable intel. Never again will I give credit card numbers over the phone. Are they showing Ukrainian phone intercepts on Russian media or is there a way to protect a phone from being hacked?

Can these devices/apps be installed on your personal computer, television or any media appliance you have at home, without your knowledge? Personally I’ve experienced a couple times when I have been on the phone and heard unusual buzzes, clicks and other sounds in the background. My guard goes up and I am very careful of what I say.

https://www.techuntold.com/listen-in-phone-calls/

[RainbowUnicorn]

Can these devices/apps be installed on your personal computer,

yes

[C C]

"Early telephones used a single wire for the subscriber's line, with ground return used to complete the circuit (as used in telegraphs)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone#...nstruments

During WWI, the allied powers supposedly still used used single-wire communications. Which putatively allowed Germany or the Central Powers to easily listen in (and vice-versa) without direct wire tapping. When the Americans arrived, they purportedly brought the more secure two-wire system.

I'm using the tentative adverbs because most WWI sources don't seem to specifically address that anymore. No reference but my memory.

[stryder]

"Early telephones used a single wire for the subscriber's line, with ground return used to complete the circuit (as used in telegraphs)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone#...nstruments

During WWI, the allied powers supposedly still used used single-wire communications. Which putatively allowed Germany or the Central Powers to easily listen in (and vice-versa) without direct wire tapping. When the Americans arrived, they purportedly brought the more secure two-wire system.

I'm using the tentative adverbs because most WWI sources don't seem to specifically address that anymore. No reference but my memory.

A Scanner (Police Scanner) use to be enough to listen into cell phones. Dual band (One for recieve, one for transmit) method was usually used on the older phones, so you might only get one side of the call. The advent of smart phones however placed most voice communication into VoIP, so the phone breaks down the communication into binary and then further can encrypt it.

Another method for interception has been round for an number of years, the Stingray (wikipedia.org). Acting as a transparent cellular repeater would allow the potential to listen to, decipher/decrypt and also clone phones.

(I use to have a small interest in general knowledge of the subject back in my 2600 days.)

[RainbowUnicorn]

Can these devices/apps be installed on your personal computer,

yes

technology exists that can copy your computer screen to a remote computer so someone can watch you do everything on your computer.
they can also control your computer

its called remote desktop

its possible to record that on your computer and then have it upload a copy when you go online

assuming the trojan is downloaded to your computer.

all manner of things are possible

intercepting un encrypted telephone calls is fairly easy technology for those who have the right equipment and experience.

& then there is echelon 2(possibly up to number 3 by now maybe even number 4)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

[Zinjanthropos]

There’s a couple of guys on YouTube who supposedly are hijacking phone calls by Russian soldiers from the field. First off I don’t understand why these soldiers are permitted to have a phones on a battlefield. Secondly I’m a bit unsure as to whether these intercepts are actually from the front and not prisoners using Ukrainian phones, phones taken from dead Russians or just made up. Do Ukrainian soldiers carry their cell phones also?

[RainbowUnicorn]

There’s a couple of guys on YouTube who supposedly are hijacking phone calls by Russian soldiers from the field. First off I don’t understand why these soldiers are permitted to have a phones on a battlefield. Secondly I’m a bit unsure as to whether these intercepts are actually from the front and not prisoners using Ukrainian phones, phones taken from dead Russians or just made up. Do Ukrainian soldiers carry their cell phones also?

yes(Ukrainian soldiers carry their cell phones with them)

there is video recorded phone calls from Russian prisoners of war being held by ukraine where they call home to tell their family they are alive and in captivity.

you tube many videos of russian pow's calling home

when russians call on un encrypted phone lines ukrainian intelligence intercepts the call and listens in.
these are the only real facts where the russian soldiers will be honest with their family members.

some of the calls the russian soldier is calling home to say goodbye because they think they are going to be over run and killed by ukrainian advances.

russian soldiers who are POW(prisoners of war) held by ukraine are not permitted cell phones.
the russian pow is given a cell phone to borrow and call home while someone guards them and listens in to the call to make sure they are not giving away intelligence.

a common theme is for the captured russian to tell their family to go to the russian government and declare them prisoners of war so they can be swapped for ukrainian prisoners from russia.

the russian government has been listing captured and dead russians as missing in action so they dont have to pay money to the family of the russian soldier.