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Africa not poor due to colonization?

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Africa is not poor because of colonization
https://youtu.be/SH63RABGK6w

INTRO: Dr. Jordan B Peterson and Magatte Wade discuss how economic freedom dictates the success potential of countries, and how Africa’s fixation on colonialism being the cause of their modern day struggles, rather than bureaucratic red tape, is what’s locking the continent into abject poverty.

Magatte Wade is an entrepreneur for change, having focused her efforts first on raising awareness and capital with her lip balm company, Skin is Skin. She would then become a TED Global Africa Fellow, giving lectures with the aim of changing the course of Africa’s history, and giving the rich continent a brighter future based on the free market.

EXCERPTS (Magatte Wade): Singapore figured that out. They went on to put in the right reforms, to make their environment some of the most business friendly environments in the world. One of the most free markets environment in the world. And you saw the magic of Singapore --  today Singapore is richer than its ex-colonizer Great Britain.

So when I hear people telling me today: 'oh Africa is poor because of colonization', I'm like please, let's move on from that. I know it's not the cause, because if it were, many countless countries have been colonized before. And by the way, colonizing one another is humanity's history. It just happened that maybe Africa has been one of the last.

[...] Hong Kong happened. China is like, wait a minute what went on over there, and then China went on to do the exact same thing with its special economic zones, some of the most free market zones in the world.

We're [China] going to do the free market, we're going to be capitalist because that's the only way. We tried everything else, we killed hundreds of millions of people, and we have nothing to show for it. But now that we're tired of being disrespected members of society...

[...] If you want to be respected in this world you're going to have to be among the prosperous ones. China got tired of being disrespected. Hollywood -- who tries to tell the world how to think, is being told by China what movies to make, and how to tweak stories and history in order to be palatable for them. You see the power that comes with being prosperous.

[...] Many of the successful Indian graduates of IAT started to dump money back into India and build a capitalist infrastructure there ... so this sort of thing can really take hold. If you were making recommendations to governments who wanted to get on board and stop being like Chad, Haiti, African Republic Congo, South Sudan, Libya, Yemen and Venezuela, etc... What concrete steps should they take from the bottom up to get the hell out of the way?



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colonialism and slavery are 2 different things
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(Sep 16, 2022 01:54 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: colonialism and slavery are 2 different things

I don't know why they even put the slavery illustration on the video face (its topic isn't slavery), unless that's the only graphic way available for representing colonialism with one scene. 

Both colonization and slavery have been a part of Africa since ancient times. While slavery was indeed a part of local cultures (present regardless of outsider influence), those existing practices were still co-opted and subsumed by various colonial eras to suit their needs (from Arabs to Romans to later Europeans, and even Southeast Asians with respect to Madagascar).

Post-colonial slavery is still prevalent on the continent today ("Slavery in contemporary Africa"), emphasizing all the more that it's a traditional, indigenous feature. Though doubtless it also offered to be malleable across the centuries for the assorted foreign powers/invaders.

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Slavery in Africa (historical)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

EXCERPTS: Multiple forms of slavery and servitude have existed throughout African history, and were shaped by indigenous practices of slavery as well as the Roman institution of slavery (and the later Christian views on slavery), the Islamic institutions of slavery via the Muslim slave trade, and eventually the Atlantic slave trade.

Slavery was a part of the economic structure of African societies for many centuries, although the extent varied. Ibn Battuta, who visited the ancient kingdom of Mali in the mid-14th century, recounts that the local inhabitants vied with each other in the number of slaves and servants they had, and was himself given a slave boy as a "hospitality gift."

In sub-Saharan Africa, the slave relationships were often complex, with rights and freedoms given to individuals held in slavery and restrictions on sale and treatment by their masters. Many communities had hierarchies between different types of slaves: for example, differentiating between those who had been born into slavery and those who had been captured through war.

The forms of slavery in Africa were closely related to kinship structures. In many African communities, where land could not be owned, enslavement of individuals was used as a means to increase the influence a person had and expand connections. This made slaves a permanent part of a master's lineage, and the children of slaves could become closely connected with the larger family ties.

Children of slaves born into families could be integrated into the master's kinship group and rise to prominent positions within society, even to the level of chief in some instances. However, stigma often remained attached, and there could be strict separations between slave members of a kinship group and those related to the master.

Chattel slavery

Domestic service

Pawnship

Military slavery

Slaves for sacrifice

Local slave trade. Many nations such as the Bono State, Ashanti of present-day Ghana and the Yoruba of present-day Nigeria were involved in slave-trading. Groups such as the Imbangala of Angola and the Nyamwezi of Tanzania would serve as intermediaries or roving bands, waging war on African states to capture people for export as slaves.

Historians John Thornton and Linda Heywood of Boston University have estimated that of the Africans captured and then sold as slaves to the New World in the Atlantic slave trade, around 90% were enslaved by fellow Africans who sold them to European traders.

Henry Louis Gates, the Harvard Chair of African and African American Studies, has stated that "without complex business partnerships between African elites and European traders and commercial agents, the slave trade to the New World would have been impossible, at least on the scale it occurred."

The entire Bubi ethnic group descends from escaped intertribal slaves owned by various ancient West-central African ethnic groups.
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