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The Ongoing Debate on God has Ended

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Ostronomos Offline
If you google "The Reality Self-Simulation Principle" you will not only find Christopher Langan's published writings but you will also find numerous articles related to the subject. The RSS is a direct consequence of the insights made in a variety of scientific fields and necessitates the existence of a global or universal consciousness. There seems to be a growing trend among Physicists that the universe is not a material construct, but something arising out of the underlying Quantum realm. In that same vein the RSS validates these claims and is mathematically self-evident.
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Magical Realist Online
(Dec 25, 2021 08:59 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: If you google "The Reality Self-Simulation Principle" you will not only find Christopher Langan's published writings but you will also find numerous articles related to the subject. The RSS is a direct consequence of the insights made in a variety of scientific fields and necessitates the existence of a global or universal consciousness. There seems to be a growing trend among Physicists that the universe is not a material construct, but something arising out of the underlying Quantum realm. In that same vein the RSS validates these claims and is mathematically self-evident.

What is Langan's definition of "God" and his proof of his/its existence?
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(Dec 25, 2021 10:42 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Dec 25, 2021 08:59 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: If you google "The Reality Self-Simulation Principle" you will not only find Christopher Langan's published writings but you will also find numerous articles related to the subject. The RSS is a direct consequence of the insights made in a variety of scientific fields and necessitates the existence of a global or universal consciousness. There seems to be a growing trend among Physicists that the universe is not a material construct, but something arising out of the underlying Quantum realm. In that same vein the RSS validates these claims and is mathematically self-evident.

What is Langan's definition of "God" and his proof of his/its existence?

The Global Operator Descriptor. 

As pertaining to the thread topic, the proof follows from the simulation hypothesis. God would be the universal mind that distributes over a self-distributed reality that is more fundamental than material separation. Since a pluralistic existence is not fundamental. There must be an ontic substrate that cohesively binds reality together at its seams.
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Magical Realist Online
(Dec 26, 2021 04:25 PM)Ostronomos Wrote:
(Dec 25, 2021 10:42 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Dec 25, 2021 08:59 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: If you google "The Reality Self-Simulation Principle" you will not only find Christopher Langan's published writings but you will also find numerous articles related to the subject. The RSS is a direct consequence of the insights made in a variety of scientific fields and necessitates the existence of a global or universal consciousness. There seems to be a growing trend among Physicists that the universe is not a material construct, but something arising out of the underlying Quantum realm. In that same vein the RSS validates these claims and is mathematically self-evident.

What is Langan's definition of "God" and his proof of his/its existence?


The Global Operator Descriptor. 

As pertaining to the thread topic, the proof follows from the simulation hypothesis. God would be the universal mind that distributes over a self-distributed reality that is more fundamental than material separation. Since a pluralistic existence is not fundamental. There must be an ontic substrate that cohesively binds reality together at its seams.


So God is a universal mind or ontic substrate that reality is scaffolded on. I can go with that. It bears some resemblance to Whitehead's concept of God.

“God is in the world, or nowhere, creating continually in us and around us. Insofar as man partakes of this creative process does he partake of the divine, of God, and that participation is his immortality...”
— Alfred North Whitehead
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Why am I not surprised that one head case is enabling the delusions of another.
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Magical Realist Online
(Dec 26, 2021 10:09 PM)Syne Wrote: Why am I not surprised that one head case is enabling the delusions of another.

Sometimes it is more important to be kind than it is to be right.
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Syne Offline
(Dec 28, 2021 07:57 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Dec 26, 2021 10:09 PM)Syne Wrote: Why am I not surprised that one head case is enabling the delusions of another.

Sometimes it is more important to be kind than it is to be right.

Sure, more important to you. But you feeling good about yourself doesn't help the delusional any. At best, they get a temporary sense of acceptance that only sets them up for an even greater sense of rejection by rational people. But you're just interested in a mutual affirmation of delusion.
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Magical Realist Online
(Dec 28, 2021 08:04 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Dec 28, 2021 07:57 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Dec 26, 2021 10:09 PM)Syne Wrote: Why am I not surprised that one head case is enabling the delusions of another.

Sometimes it is more important to be kind than it is to be right.

Sure, more important to you. But you feeling good about yourself doesn't help the delusional any. At best, they get a temporary sense of acceptance that only sets them up for an even greater sense of rejection by rational people. But you're just interested in a mutual affirmation of delusion.

Nobody has ever been cured of their delusions by being constantly insulted and mocked for them. If anything it only emboldens them more.
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Syne Offline
(Dec 28, 2021 08:34 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Dec 28, 2021 08:04 PM)Syne Wrote: Sure, more important to you. But you feeling good about yourself doesn't help the delusional any. At best, they get a temporary sense of acceptance that only sets them up for an even greater sense of rejection by rational people. But you're just interested in a mutual affirmation of delusion.

Nobody has ever been cured of their delusions by being constantly insulted and mocked for them. If anything it only emboldens them more.

Who said they have? No one's mental disorders are going to be cured over the internet, without professional intervention.
And you have it backwards. While disagreement may temporarily increase the resolve of delusion, the collective impact is seeding doubt. It is only affirming delusion that emboldens it.
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Syne Offline

Steps for Working With Delusions
1. Establish a trusting, interpersonal relationship
https://www.bcss.org/support/how-do-i-ge...delusions/

MR's strategy stops right there, accomplishing nothing. I accept that there's a limit to how much trust can be built solely online:

Working with delusions is similar to hallucinations, except that more non-verbal techniques are required. You will need to sit in silence longer and with more patience, as delusions do not tend to go away, ever.

Knowing that, I move on to:

2. Identify the content and/or type of delusion
Do not confirm or feed into the delusion by asking questions about it when the person is not in psychosis.

And:

3. Investigate how the delusion is affecting the person's life
Assess if and how the delusions are interfering with a person’s life. For example, are they are no longer able to function or participate in regular everyday life?

(Dec 24, 2021 09:15 PM)Syne Wrote: Why are you seeing a psychiatrist in the first place? Most people who are well-adjusted don't even think to do so. So what is causing you distress or negatively affecting your life?
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