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Marijuana use: higher odds of suicide thoughts + Who gets biggest high from morphine?

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Marijuana use tied to higher odds for thoughts of suicide
https://consumer.healthday.com/6-22-mari...46992.html

INTRO: Young adults who use marijuana appear to have an increased risk of suicidal thoughts and attempted suicide, according to a new study from the U.S. National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA).

In fact, the risk that someone between 18 and 34 will think about, plan for or attempt suicide increases with the amount of marijuana they use, according to results published June 22 in the journal JAMA Network Open.

Even occasional pot use was associated with a greater risk of suicidal thoughts, plans and attempts compared to no pot use at all, and the risk rises as people use more often, results show.

Risk also increased regardless of whether the cannabis user suffered from depression, although pot smokers with depression had an overall greater risk of suicidality, according to the study.

Also, women were more strongly affected by this link than men.

"Regardless of whether you had a history of depression or not, cannabis significantly increased the risk of suicidal behavior. It wasn't a small effect. It was a large effect," said Dr. Nora Volkow, director of NIDA. "I expected an association, but it just took me aback."

The number of U.S. pot users more than doubled between 2008 and 2019, rising from 22.6 million to 45 million, researchers said in background notes. The number of daily or near-daily users almost tripled during the same period, rising from 3.6 million to 9.8 million.

Over the same span, the number of folks who had recently suffered major depression rose from 14.5 million to 19.4 million, and the number of suicidal people increased from 8.3 million to 12 million, researchers said. Annual deaths by suicide rose from about 35,000 in 2008 to nearly 45,900 in 2019.

To study possible links between suicidality and pot smoking, Volkow's team analyzed a decade's worth of data from a nationwide survey on drug use... (MORE)


Childhood trauma can make people like morphine more
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/...062221.php

RELEASE: People who have experienced childhood trauma get a more pleasurable "high" from morphine, new research suggests.

University of Exeter scientists compared the effects of morphine on 52 healthy people - 27 with a history of childhood abuse and neglect, and 25 who reported no such experiences in childhood. Those with childhood trauma liked morphine (an opioid drug) more, felt more euphoric and had a stronger desire for another dose. Those with no childhood trauma were more likely to dislike the effects and feel dizzy or nauseous.

"There are high rates of childhood trauma in people with addictions. Our findings show that these sorts of experiences can actually change how certain drugs feel," said lead author Dr Molly Carlyle, who conducted this research at Exeter and is now at the University of Queensland.

"To our knowledge, this is the first study to link childhood trauma with the effects of opioids in people without histories of addiction, suggesting that childhood trauma may lead to a greater sensitivity to the positive and pleasurable effects of opioids. This may explain the link between childhood trauma and vulnerability to opioid use disorder, with implications for treatments and the prescribing of opioids medically."

One possible explanation for the differing responses to morphine is that childhood trauma affects the development of the endogenous opioid system (a pain-relieving system that is sensitive to chemicals including endorphins - our natural opioids).

"It's possible that childhood trauma dampens that system," Carlyle explained. "When a baby cries and is comforted, endorphins are released - so if loving interactions like this don't happen, this system may develop differently and could become more sensitive to the rewarding effects of opioid drugs."

Professor Celia Morgan, of the University of Exeter, who leads the research group, said: "Our findings that people who have been traumatised as children are more likely to enjoy morphine might help to reduce stigma around heroin use. Many opioid addicts are people who were traumatised in early childhood, but it is still widely believed that addiction is a weakness and that addicts simply lack self-control. This research may be a step towards treating heroin addicts with more compassion, as we would children with histories of trauma. Our study also highlights the importance of interventions aimed at high-risk children and adolescents to protect against opioid use."

The study's participants, aged 18-65, had either reported experiencing severe childhood trauma (abuse or neglect, as measured by the Childhood Trauma Questionnaire) or reported no childhood trauma. They each attended two sessions, a week apart, and received either an active dose of morphine (0.15mg/kg) or a negligible control dose (0.01mg/kg) in a randomised, double-blind crossover design.

People's experiences of morphine were measured by asking them a set of questions eight times - once before the morphine injections, then at regular intervals afterwards. Pain was also measured by placing a hand in cold water and recording how long it took people to find this painful and how long they could tolerate leaving their hand in the water.

Morphine increased pain threshold and tolerance, but this did not differ between the trauma and non-trauma groups.

There was also a computerised button-pressing task that measured effort to obtain more morphine by button pressing for either a theoretical amount of money or morphine. No differences were found between the two groups during this task. This may have been because money is highly rewarding in non-addicted groups and was not a suitable comparator for this task.

The testing was carried out at the Clinical Research Facility at the Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital. The paper, published in the journal Addiction Biology, is entitled: "A randomised, double-blind study investigating the relationship between early childhood trauma and the rewarding effects of morphine."
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Ostronomos Offline
oh my God CC you're killin me.
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Syne Offline
^ No, suicidal thoughts would be about the person killing themselves, not others killing them.
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stryder Offline
Softsciences always does manage to come up with some obsurd statements.

What tends to not be taken into account is that most people that attempt to use recreational drugs (especially for the long haul) are "Escapists", they are escaping from something using the drug to get there.

What that something is could be abuse or deeply seated traumas and in those situations sometimes people can't find a way out so they could consider selfharm or suicide, and that it can lead to finding an escapist medium (Drink, Drugs, Games/Gambling, Sex etc) of which can lead to a dehabilitive state if not moderated (Thus all the laws).

So in a nutshell, more people that have likely suffered problems in their lives are likely to true and continually use drugs over people that have had no traumas.
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Syne Offline
They obviously controlled for the effect being caused by preexisting depression:
Quote:"Regardless of whether you had a history of depression or not, cannabis significantly increased the risk of suicidal behavior. It wasn't a small effect. It was a large effect,"

Are escapists more prone to depression in some way that is exacerbated by marijuana use but not apparent otherwise? That would be a subject for further study, but it doesn't negate the results here.

I agree that any substance use/abuse is self-destructive behavior (even just smoking cigarettes or overeating). But a vast majority of the population displays that without any indication of depression or suicidal thoughts.
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