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Chauvin trial

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Syne Offline
Ben Shapiro admits that the prosecution had a good day in court yesterday, including that, based on the testimony, it could be beyond reasonable doubt.
Starting @4:00

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/J-1tvfRRMag

I disagree with Ben Shapiro, taking into account testimony other than yesterday's alone.
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Seattle Offline
This guy's guilty. Trust me.
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Syne Offline
(Apr 10, 2021 01:06 AM)Seattle Wrote: This guy's guilty. Trust me.

Yep, leftists don't even think there should be a trial. We all saw the video. Just lynch him. And some even wanting him lynched due to his race.
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Syne Offline
Cross-examination of the medical examiner who performed the autopsy begins at 1:08:04.

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ZNueFy7OWHs

Heart disease and drugs played a role in Floyd's death.
Floyd's enlarged heart meant it needed to pump more blood than normal for adequate oxygenation.
Floyd had 75-90% narrowing of his coronary arteries, with 75% or greater capable of causing sudden death.
Meth exacerbates heart disease.
He's pronounced causes of death with Floyd's heart and artery conditions alone.
The prone position Floyd was held in is not inherently dangerous (required for third degree murder or second degree manslaughter), according to the medical literature.
No damage found, under the skin or deeper, of any injury to Floyd's neck or back.
His primary finding, of compression on the neck, he admits it's solely based on the videos, of which he is not an expert and admits is opinion.
No indication that the knee occluded a carotid artery, and even if so, could not have occluded both carotids necessary for carotid asphyxia.
No bruising or damage evident from Chauvin's knee or shin on Floyd's neck. (How is this "excessive force"?)
Fentanyl is a respiratory depressant.
He's certified overdose deaths where the level of fentanyl was the same and even lower than Floyd's.
Before watching the videos, he initially reported that there was no physical evidence that Floyd died of asphyxiation.
Initial finding was Floyd's heart condition, and later the toxicology report, including a fatal level of fentanyl.
Medical finding of homicide is a different standard than criminal homicide.
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Syne Offline
Prosecution otherwise had a relatively good day Thursday, likely because the defense just received their exhibits the night before and after court. So the one defense lawyer had to get up to speed overnight. That sounds like the only reason the prosecutors finally did well, and their witnesses didn't immediately embarrass them on cross-examination, like they had been up until Thursday.

In most cases, the prosecution should be doing this well every day they are presenting their case. The defense is limited to the prosecution's lines of questioning on cross-examination. Only once the defense has started to present its own case should the prosecution's case look as bad as it has most days this week.
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(Apr 10, 2021 05:02 AM)Syne Wrote: Prosecution otherwise had a relatively good day Thursday, likely because the defense just received their exhibits the night before and after court. So the one defense lawyer had to get up to speed overnight. That sounds like the only reason the prosecutors finally did well, and their witnesses didn't immediately embarrass them on cross-examination, like they had been up until Thursday.

In most cases, the prosecution should be doing this well every day they are presenting their case. The defense is limited to the prosecution's lines of questioning on cross-examination. Only once the defense has started to present its own case should the prosecution's case look as bad as it has most days this week.

Chauvin isn't going to get away with a knee on the neck for 6 minutes after he had quit moving or talking (and likely breathing). They call an ambulance on the one hand and restrict his breathing (until death) on the other hand. The ambulance driver had to tell him to get his knee off and this was after no pulse was found.

You white people want this win badly don't you?
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(Apr 10, 2021 08:05 PM)Seattle Wrote: Chauvin isn't going to get away with a knee on the neck for 6 minutes after he had quit moving or talking (and likely breathing). They call an ambulance on the one hand and restrict his breathing (until death) on the other hand. The ambulance driver had to tell him to get his knee off and this was after no pulse was found.

You white people want this win badly don't you?

That presumes his knee caused anything. The medical examiner who did the autopsy found no evidence of that. He only added it as a cause of death after watch the video. Floyd was only unresponsive under his knee for 4 minutes, according to the uncut body cam footage. And Floyd didn't die under Chauvin's knee. Floyd entered cardiac arrest in the ambulance, an hour after they picked him up.

Don't be a racist. Assuming opinions are based on race is racist. Don't be that person.
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(Apr 10, 2021 08:05 PM)Seattle Wrote: Chauvin isn't going to get away with a knee on the neck for 6 minutes after he had quit moving or talking (and likely breathing). They call an ambulance on the one hand and restrict his breathing (until death) on the other hand. The ambulance driver had to tell him to get his knee off and this was after no pulse was found.

You white people want this win badly don't you?

He was speedballing, right?

Dr. Daniel Isenschmid, a forensic toxicology expert who did lab work for Floyd's case, testified on April 8 that Floyd's hospital blood and autopsy urine contained low levels of fentanyl and methamphetamine.

He said Floyd's blood sample had 11 nanograms of fentanyl per milliliter and 5.6 nanograms of norfentanyl per milliliter. He said the level of methamphetamine was "low" and consistent with a prescription dose.

He said those levels of fentanyl and methamphetamine are significantly lower than the average amount seen in blood samples of DUI suspects, and much lower than post-mortem cases for individuals who die from drug overdoses.

But…the CDC has serum samples of people that have died from overdoses of Fentanyl, which were 11 ng/mL.

Postmortem levels in the first two patients who died were 11 ng/mL (patient E) and 13 ng/mL (patient I.

The prosecution must convince the jury that there is no other reasonable explanation that can come from the evidence presented at trial.

That right there would be enough for me to vote for an acquittal.
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