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Canada suicide - Syne - Feb 27, 2026
Larry Correia (Facebook) RE: Canada suicide - confused2 - Feb 27, 2026 Personally I'm all in favor of assisted dying - I hope it becomes legal in the UK before I'm ready to depart. Humans (even oneself) are surprisingly difficult to kill - hence the need for 'assistance' so you don'tr end up worse off than when you started. The 'situation' in Canada seems to be - From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_Canada Quote:To receive euthanasia, patients experiencing disease, disability or terminal illness must sign a written request expressing their wish to end their life in front of one independent witness who can confirm it was done willingly free of coercion. Next, two physicians and/or nurse practitioners must independently confirm their written agreement that the patient has an incurable grievous and irremediable medical condition that is in an advanced state of irreversible decline, and that the patient is capable of receiving and willing to receive euthanasia. If their death is not reasonably foreseeable, a medical expert in the underlying medical condition must sign off on the request, their assessment must take at least 90 days, and they must be informed about and decline all other forms of treatment, including palliative care RE: Canada suicide - C C - Feb 27, 2026 (Feb 27, 2026 10:55 PM)confused2 Wrote: [...] Humans (even oneself) are surprisingly difficult to kill - hence the need for 'assistance' so you don'tr end up worse off than when you started. [...] The universe occasionally seems to dabble in an inverse rule for maximizing suffering. For instance, a person who truly loves life may be routinely hounded by injuries, illnesses, close encounters with death, and various losses of loved ones. And those who are antinatalists or persistently depressed may annoyingly weather and dodge almost any menace and highly touted attempt at escape. Certainly not a ubiquitous state of affairs, but one definitely knows when one is a continuous target of the world's sadistic prank side. RE: Canada suicide - Syne - Feb 27, 2026 (Feb 27, 2026 10:55 PM)confused2 Wrote: Personally I'm all in favor of assisted dying - I hope it becomes legal in the UK before I'm ready to depart. Well, when you don't have the stones yourself... 9_9 RE: Canada suicide - Yazata - Feb 28, 2026 I support assisted suicide for the terminally ill or for those with incurable conditions where quality of life is terrible. (Admittedly, measuring quality of life is awfully subjective, but what other alternative is there?) The Canadian system seems reasonable to me and upon initial examination, I think that I support it. Canada says https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html Quote:Medical assistance in dying (MAID) is a process that allows someone who is found eligible to be able to receive assistance from a medical practitioner in ending their life. The federal Criminal Code of Canada permits this to take place only under very specific circumstances and rules. Anyone requesting this service must meet specific eligibility criteria to receive medical assistance in dying. Any medical practitioner who administers an assisted death to someone must satisfy certain safeguards first... I have no real objection to that. (Feb 27, 2026 10:55 PM)confused2 Wrote: Personally I'm all in favor of assisted dying - I hope it becomes legal in the UK before I'm ready to depart. Yeah, I hope that it's an option for me as well when I eventually reach that point. RE: Canada suicide - Syne - Feb 28, 2026
In March 2021, the law was further amended by Bill C-7 to include those suffering from a grievous and irremediable condition whose death was not reasonably foreseeable.[2] The planned inclusion of people with mental illnesses is controversial and has been repeatedly delayed. The legality of this postponement to 2027 is being challenged in court.
The intensity and breadth of Canada's MAID program has led to condemnation of its program by UN human rights experts and disability rights groups in Canada.[4] It has also been the subject of substantial international attention and criticism.[5][6][7] Human rights advocates have criticized Canada's euthanasia laws in a number of ways, including that it is lacking safeguards, devalues the lives of disabled people, prompts health workers and doctors to suggest euthanasia to people who would not otherwise consider it, or euthanizes people who were not receiving adequate government support to continue living.
After the repeal of the reasonably foreseeable requirement in Bill C-7, writers for The Spectator, Jacobin, and Global News have argued that many might opt into euthanasia because of poverty.[71][72][73] Critics believe that a lack of social spending structurally places these people in poverty, and then introduces MAID as a way out, citing issues like insufficient welfare for disabled people and unconstitutionally long waiting times for healthcare as evidence that those who are disabled and impoverished do not have enough support to survive.[73][74] But overall, I don't understand why we'd want to incentivize making people culpable in murder. If someone lacks the will to do it themselves, why would we assume they really desire to die? And it's not like we don't already have a huge problem with doctors playing god and not getting informed consent. RE: Canada suicide - Zinjanthropos - Feb 28, 2026 Went to one held in the backyard of the woman who was ending things. She had terminal cancer, bedridden, was apparently wracked with pain and was being heavily medicated. Kind of weird because it was a really hot day. She dies but the vehicle picking up the body was involved in an accident on the way there. So she laid dead in the heat for about a couple hours. Can’t figure out why I bothered to go at all other than I knew family and they asked. She was dealing with a lot and I don’t think she was capable of doing what she wanted to do without some help. Personally I’m ok with it. Didn’t lose any sleep. She had nothing left to live for. I guess there’s always hope for a miracle cure but how often does that happen when you really need it. Never? “ RE: Canada suicide - C C - Feb 28, 2026 (Feb 28, 2026 05:51 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [...] She was dealing with a lot and I don’t think she was capable of doing what she wanted to do without some help. Personally I’m ok with it. [...] Yah, likewise the below isn't even taking into account that one may be either too elderly or too debilitated by a late stage of cancer or other progressing disease to even walk, much less set up the circumstances for DIY expungement. Leave it to the professionals, rather than bungling it disastrously in one fashion or another... (1) The Syliva Plath method is irresponsible and dangerous to others for obvious reasons. (2) Guns are out of the question, because they make a mess that somebody has to clean up afterwards. There's that scene in "Pulp Fiction" where Vincent accidentally blows Marvin's head apart like a watermelon -- not just the blood smearing everything, but the skull fragments and brains scattered about. (3) Similar with slashing the wrists. Even though the bathtub can be cleaned up satisfactorily, does the rest of the family or the new residents really want to use it again after something like that took place in it? There's the expense of replacing such. (4) And hanging just isn't a desired method, no matter how much David Carradine may have tried to combine it with pleasure via the rope tied around his neck and genitals. (5) Can flunitrazepam really knock you out fast enough after you place the plastic bag around your head and duct tape it securely? If not, will the suffocation reflex just make you pull it off or punch a hole in the bag? (If you still had enough vitality to put it on in the first place, then surely there's enough left to do that, too.) (6) And if you were never an experienced substance abuser in the past, can you successfully overdose or even find a source for the amount of junk you need? Again, are you in any kind of condition at that point for finding a supplier or navigating successfully through a seedy neighborhood? RE: Canada suicide - confused2 - Feb 28, 2026 Personally I think of dying as being rather like going to the toilet. I don't want anyone watching either especially as quite often folks manage to do both at the same time. Give me nurses and strippers at the end .. preferably a combination of the two. If they have to nail the coffin lid down - that's fine by me. All billed as part of the maids service. Way to go. RE: Canada suicide - Syne - Mar 1, 2026 My personal plan is to simply take on more dangerous activities as my body or mind start to fail me. I mean, what better time to go swimming with sharks, base jumping, etc.? You do enough risking activities and the odds are likely to catch up with you. Go out with a bang rather than a whimper. |