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"Moderate" Democrats approve of political violence - Syne - Oct 11, 2025 Background:
In private text messages from 2022, Jay Jones, the Democratic nominee for Virginia attorney general, fantasized about shooting his political opponent, then-House Speaker Todd Gilbert, and described Gilbert's wife and children in extreme, inflammatory terms. The texts, first reported in early October 2025, led to widespread bipartisan condemnation. A Virginia PAC Messaged Voters About Jay Jones’ Violent Rhetoric. Here Are The Unsettling Responses.
When a conservative get-out-the-vote operation sent text messages to voters in Virginia to ensure they’d seen Jay Jones’ texts fantasizing about murdering a political opponent and his children, the intent was to encourage recipients not to vote for Jones. RE: "Moderate" Democrats approve of political violence - C C - Oct 11, 2025 (Oct 11, 2025 06:50 AM)Syne Wrote: [...] In private text messages from 2022, Jay Jones, the Democratic nominee for Virginia attorney general, fantasized about shooting his political opponent, then-House Speaker Todd Gilbert, and described Gilbert's wife and children in extreme, inflammatory terms. Like Iranians and their various "Death to whomever!" slogans, the white Dems probably view such violence-laced expressions as just part of the colorful, colloquial language that both their classically marginalized and more recent migrant population group members indulge in, when the latter have a need to vigorously vent. Deemed as excusable or ignorable due to the systemic oppression they endure. The inconsistency or hypocrisy with respect to the gun-control groups is probably anomalous or limited. I.e., contemporary Dem antipathy toward guns would still be an obstacle in terms of direct or non-poisonous assassination. (I.e., it's really not convenient to have to continue relying on seducing or recruiting politically confused independents and estranged, bipolar or alienated neurodivergent sons of Republicans.) But even mitigated "just beat'em up and intimidate" street violence can still be a fulfilling staple, apparently. https://youtu.be/UUf_F2GbRSI RE: "Moderate" Democrats approve of political violence - Syne - Oct 11, 2025 Why would we believe them any less genuine in their sentiment? The Iranians, etc. certainly are when they call for death. RE: "Moderate" Democrats approve of political violence - Magical Realist - Oct 11, 2025 One usually fantasizes as a substitute for actually acting out. It's not technically "violence" until then, especially as it was a private text msg. Unlike the burning down of a judge's house who Trump just so happened to condemn before the world and who had received death threats for weeks before. RE: "Moderate" Democrats approve of political violence - C C - Oct 11, 2025 (Oct 11, 2025 06:39 PM)Syne Wrote: Why would we believe them any less genuine in their sentiment? The Iranians, etc. certainly are when they call for death. "Death to taxes!" According to Rick Steves in one of the travel guide episodes he did on Iran, the latter citizens use the "Death to" expression commonly in everyday life. Akin to an American parent telling one of their kids that: "I'm going to kill you for taking out the ice cream last night and forgetting to put it back in the freezer compartment." That's not to say that there might not be an occasional Dem spokesperson, candidate, or representative who truly means genuine violence (which Jones might even qualify for). But the coping mechanism for elite leaders is to dismiss it as a supposedly oppressed group's hipster(?) style of figurative venting (when there seems to have been an indifferent attitude about rebuking or penalizing the individual). RE: "Moderate" Democrats approve of political violence - Zinjanthropos - Oct 11, 2025 One thing to have members f***ed up by their political party and another to have a political party f***ed up by its members but when you have both at the same time? What is going on across the river(US)? RE: "Moderate" Democrats approve of political violence - Syne - Oct 11, 2025 Rick Steves isn't exactly an academic. The Quran (Hadith interpretation) teaches that Muslims can lie (taqiyya) to the infidel (non-Muslims). When a person feels free to express their violent fantasies, they are closer to enacting them. |