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New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - C C - May 21, 2022 https://theconversation.com/use-of-white-privilege-makes-online-discussions-more-polarized-and-less-constructive-181013 EXCERPTS: A wide variety of historical, economic and cultural forces combine to allow a larger percentage of whites to climb up the socioeconomic ladder than Blacks and Hispanics. Some people call the combined effects of these forces “white privilege.” Though these words are commonly used, research by Lia Bozarth and me has found that use of “white privilege” on social media can actually decrease support for racially progressive policies. We found that the term can increase online political polarization and lead to lower quality conversations on social media. In particular, the term drives some whites who would otherwise support efforts toward racial equality away from online conversations. [...] In our study, the term “white privilege” changed the behavior of some whites. But the psychology behind this change is common to all humans. In fact, the psychological research that first examined this effect focused on Blacks’ performance in school. The term “white privilege” taps into a deep-seated tendency as old as humanity. As social creatures, humans are naturally inclined to split the world into “us” and “them.” This can lead to thinking of others – and sometimes ourselves – as a stereotypical member of our group. [...] Phrases like “white privilege” play on this reasoning by implying that all whites are similar and have the same negative traits. Unsurprisingly, the accusation – even subtly implied – that everyone in your race is “bad” can create strong reactions. Some people will just disregard the speaker entirely. But many others will feel intense visceral emotions such as anger, which can lead us to be more confrontational, or shame, which can cause people to withdraw. When faced with the term “white privilege,” it’s not surprising that some whites will look less favorably on the speaker’s ideas. And it makes sense that the whites who are more sympathetic will tend to withdraw. Of course this reaction, which psychologists call “social identity threat,” is not unique to white people. At some point in their lives, everyone feels unwelcome or devalued because of a group they identify as part of, whether that’s being Black, white, Hispanic, young, old, female, male, Christian or atheist. [...] Surveys show that an overwhelming majority of Americans think that everyone should get an equal shot at success, and numerous studies have shown that race is involved in economic opportunity and social mobility. While the data is clear that racial inequality persists in America, its causes are complex and have so far proven intractable. ... Words matter, and our research demonstrates how phrases like “white privilege” affect the way controversial issues on race are perceived... (MORE - missing details) RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - Magical Realist - May 21, 2022 Quote:When faced with the term “white privilege,” it’s not surprising that some whites will look less favorably on the speaker’s ideas. And it makes sense that the whites who are more sympathetic will tend to withdraw. It's dehumanizing and conversation-stopping to be referred to as a demographic, or a member of group. The individuality of the member is dismissed in favor of a type which defines the member in a limited and objective way. It's the effect of being plastered with a label, no longer a free and unique self to be related to as a subject and not defined as an object. If whites don't like that, then join the club folks. It's something minority groups have to deal with everyday. RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - confused2 - May 22, 2022 I think of myself (and may well have indicated so on this forum) as white trash. On a good day (and only on a good day) I exceed my lowest expectations. RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - Kornee - May 22, 2022 For some strange reason the one group always excluded from being lumped with 'white privilege' -> 'white supremacist' pejorative(s) are far and away the most privileged and supremacist-minded and vastly over represented at-the-top demographic. Whilst simultaneously the most vociferous advocates/agitators/promoters of those anti-white terms and their political/ideological implementation. Especially via Hollywood, MSM, and Marxist dominated academia. Hmm.... makes some folks suspect something other than pure virtuosity is the underlying motivation and long term goal. Ah yes, might as well post those links again: https://www.bitchute.com/video/kFuTWwNrwnPG/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcQFsO_Df9k Sorry if those make you feel uncomfortable. Well actually no, I'm not sorry, just sad the reaction is typically cowardly silence. RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - Kornee - May 22, 2022 Gloves off for me. Sick and tired of the immense double standards and outright raging hypocrisy that has led to the current political/ideological 'Western Democracies' Gulag. Happy reading folks: https://historyreviewed.best/index.php/why-all-whites-must-die-the-intense-jewish-hatred-of-the-white-race-what-jews-openly-say/ What - that is just vile Jew bating antisemitism you say? So point out where any of the numerous quotes from prominent members of The Tribe have been taken out of context. Simples. I was banned at another forum as 'an antisemitic hate monger'. The charge was not and could not be justified in any rational, objective way. Didn't have to be. Fact-free PC polemic was evidently sufficient justification for a summary trial, sentence, and execution of perma-ban. Something predicted and fully expected ahead of time. Well at least there has been no mandatory state imposed heavy fines and lengthy jail time. Or arson attack and/or being beaten up by hired thugs. As has been the situation for many brave souls elsewhere - including numbers of so-called self-hating Jews btw. But give it time. And I do realize this little 'tirade' could have me chucked out here too. RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - confused2 - May 22, 2022 The connection has timed out The server at historyreviewed.best is taking too long to respond. RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - Kornee - May 22, 2022 (May 22, 2022 10:32 AM)confused2 Wrote: The connection has timed outI just checked again and no connection problems for me. Maybe try a different browser or use e.g. a free vpn browser extension and see if that solves the issue. If so then suspect geographic specific censorship of one form or another. PS - Decided awhile ago to save (for a fairly obvious reason) this page to Archive.org. The then current URL is: https://web.archive.org/web/20220522071340/https://historyreviewed.best/index.php/why-all-whites-must-die-the-intense-jewish-hatred-of-the-white-race-what-jews-openly-say/ That should (hopefully) overcome any direct censorship blocking. However it is a fact a certain all-powerful lobby group has forced Archive.org to cave in and 'disappear' 'controversial' 'securely saved for posterity in perpetuity' webpages. Fingers crossed!
RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - C C - May 22, 2022 Quote:[Re:] Why ALL Whites must DIE! The INTENSE Jewish HATRED of the White Race: What Jews OPENLY SAY! Sure, there are radicals in the Jewish community (as both individual contrarians and members of some faction/movement)... Just as there are extremists in any population group. But in terms of avoiding fallacy, that only warrants zeroing in on that specific sub-label or that specific thought orientation, and not attributing their particular personality slash political characteristics to the general designation of or the whole of their applicable population group. (I.e., expressing "Jews" absolutely, without qualifiers or mitigation.) The contemporary irony of such "Jews HATE white people" rhetoric is that the Left's anti-racist (CRT) faction classifies Jews as "white", and thus part of its conspiracy theory of white privilege and the redefining of white supremacy: https://www.jpost.com/opinion/jews-are-not-white-race-and-identity-in-israel-and-the-us-opinion-685368 Long preceding that was the Nation of Islam's belief that the scientist Yakub created white people 6,000 years ago -- with Jews included in that "white" category: The name Ya`qub (Yakub) is the Arabic variant of the name of the Biblical Patriarch known as Jacob in English language versions of the Bible, and as Ya`qob in Biblical Hebrew. [...] The idea that Jews were an "artificial race" created by interbreeding and dependent on "tricks and lies" already existed in anti-Semitic theories of the time. The story of Yakub includes Jews as part of a wider artificially created "white" race. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam) There are plenty of Jewish conservatives (the Jewish community isn't inherently leftist), as well as the self-proclaimed "liberals mugged by reality" like Melanie Phillips (note her opinion piece titled "Why even black and brown-skinned Jews are “white imperialists” [according to Church of Woke]). Leftist sources like Rational Wiki call her Mad Mel (which is to say, it's OK to be misogynistic when it's a conservative woman, TERF, one gone rogue from the Party, etc): "Mad Mel, an ex-communist cum-right-wing battle-axe batshit insane British journalist. And that's putting it nicely." But American Jews certainly didn't all belong to the communist party even back in the old days, and the descendants of those who were did not migrate wholesale to the New Left -- many were too severely disillusioned for even that. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/american-jews-idealize-soviet-communism Going back to Nation of Islam... in addition to the antisemitic propaganda, they have even consorted with the "real" white supremacist clubs in the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam_and_antisemitism Is there any consolation in Louis Farrakhan being patriotic, despite the quasi-veiled doctrinal enmity for white people and Jews? Farrakhan gave a speech attacking then National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, and presidential advisor (later Chicago mayor) Rahm Emanuel. In regards to their names, he stated that "Every Jewish person that is around the president is a dual citizen of Israel and the United States of America...and sometimes, we have to raise the question, Are you more loyal to the state of Israel than you are to the best interests of the United States of America?" OTOH, if someone belongs to either the Nation of Islam or especially global Islam "proper", the mainstream may criticize one to an extent, but probably not cancel one for antisemitism (Regressive Left). Like YouTube inventing a variety of excuses for why certain social media icons don't really mean what they say... YouTube restricts violent hate speech, except Jihadist antisemitism https://www.scivillage.com/thread-12061-post-50199.html#pid50199 RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - confused2 - May 22, 2022 [Re:] Why ALL Whites must DIE! The INTENSE Jewish HATRED of the White Race: What Jews OPENLY SAY! https://historyreviewed.best/index.php/w...penly-say/ The shouty style of presentation convinced me this is a lunatic presentation by a lunatic. No comment on the content - I have better things to think about. RE: New study indicates that invoking “white privilege” often backfires - C C - May 22, 2022 (May 22, 2022 08:24 PM)confused2 Wrote: [Re:] Why ALL Whites must DIE! The INTENSE Jewish HATRED of the White Race: What Jews OPENLY SAY! Over the years I've encountered quotes and excerpts from speeches, essays, books, articles by Jewish leaders and scholars that express controversial views. But a reciprocal publication applying such to the general Jewish community is, again, in the same context as asserting that the KKK represents the mindset of all white people or the Nation of Islam represents the mindset of all African-Americans. Another way to put it is that pretending the far rightists don't have these sources (from the horse's mouth) to feed their thought orientations -- in this particular case, pretending that Jews are the lone population group in the world that is devoid of crackpots -- isn't helping anyone. That systematic pretentiousness of ignoring _X_ can send a signal to the extremists that they are justified slash onto something and is a stimulus for naïve, potential recruits that maybe an odd double-standard is indeed transpiring. |