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(UK) The "climate alarmists are a religious cult" proposal - C C - Aug 3, 2021
Will the climate alarmists ever calm down?
https://www.spiked-online.com/video/will-the-climate-alarmists-ever-calm-down/
INTRO: Brendan, Ella and Fraser discuss global warming, flooding and Net Zero on the Spiked podcast. Watch the full episode here.
EXCERPT (from the video segment below): I think we're starting to see just how cultish environmentalism has become and how religious it's become; and I don't mean that as an insult to religious people -- there are all sorts of interesting and good religious people.
But the politics of climate change, the climate change alarmism, has become this kind of end of world cultish world view -- that's what it is, the way it talks about floods as a kind of lesson for mankind and punishment for our hubris. It talks about the coming apocalypse, the wiping out of human life, potentially the wiping out of all life. [Extinction Rebellion]
It has this idea of sin, this notion that if you do certain things you are harming the environment, you're harming the polar bears, you're harming the ozone layer. I don't know if people talk about the ozone layer anymore [laugh] -- but you're harming something or other, and therefore you need to self-flagellate you need to do penance. You need to recycle a certain amount in order to make up for your eco sin.
So it's a very religious movement, and I think the floods that have taken place the ones in Europe have been absolutely devastating. There have also been floods in London, and what I've noticed is that lots of people with a green mindset almost relish these kinds of events because they hold them up instantly as proof of their thesis.
This is what we are going to get, and what they're essentially saying is this is what we deserve because we've dared to live in an industrialized modern society that emphasizes economic progress and economic growth (although not enough as far as I'm concerned).
It has this very religious feel to it, but I think I really agree with the point Ella's making. There's always been this contradiction in environmentalism between on the one hand the crazy claims they make about the coming apocalypse and how disastrous it will be, billions wiped out and the planet on fire etc -- and what they then demand that people do.
And what they demand that people do, is separate your rubbish, or drive to the supermarket less, or go on holiday once a year rather than twice a year. So if you go on one of their demonstrations, which they used to have a lot of in the past, it would all be about the end of the world -- but they'd all be dancing and waving things around. There was always a mismatch between what they claimed and what they did.
I think it's a confused movement, they don't really know what they're talking about. But it seems to me that the engine of it is this depressive misanthropic view that mankind is a destructive force, a plague on the planet. We are going to land in the crap if we don't start changing our ways... (MORE - the complete podcast)
Only one section of the full video, partial transcript excerpt above
https://youtu.be/Au8boXxz9wY
RE: (UK) The "climate alarmists are a religious cult" proposal - confused2 - Aug 4, 2021
Quote: what they're essentially saying is this is what we deserve because we've dared to live in an industrialized modern society that emphasizes economic progress and economic growthI happened to be looking at (buying) solar panels recently. A throw away comment was that the US (on average) needs 10kW, the UK 4kW and 'the others' very much less.
I can see that you might want two holidays a year if you live in Pitsville - but why are you living in Pitsville in the first place?
The things that seem obvious to an American (It's the economy, stupid) can seem totally opaque to a young person from another country. In a few years y'all will be needing 15kW solar panels with the batteries to match - or some other way of generating more electricity - and you'll call that progress.
RE: (UK) The "climate alarmists are a religious cult" proposal - Syne - Aug 4, 2021
The UK is a relatively tiny country, with very little variety of climate. The US has a very large variety of climates, many requiring almost year round AC. Don't be so provincially naive.
RE: (UK) The "climate alarmists are a religious cult" proposal - Zinjanthropos - Aug 4, 2021
Maybe, just maybe, the climate alarmists are going to drive the economy for the next few years. If the coming apocalypse is about to unfold then we are going to need to adapt to it. Its just the way it is. In order to do so we will have to build to weather the storm (excuse the pun). Innovation, Infrastructure, relocation, homes, transportation, recycling etc.... all these things necessary to survive. Should put a lot of people to work. Maybe build robots to do the bulk or build spacecraft to escape, idk. It could be boom times ahead as we adjust. When my descendants sail to America instead of driving across the 49th, they’re going to need boats.
RE: (UK) The "climate alarmists are a religious cult" proposal - Syne - Aug 4, 2021
No, the climate alarmists would destroy the economy entirely, leaving us without any engine to produce innovation, improve infrastructure, etc.. They want equality by making everywhere an equally impoverished third-world country.