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Syne
Nov 27, 2020 09:28 PM
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(Nov 27, 2020 09:21 PM)Leigha Wrote: (Nov 27, 2020 08:29 PM)Syne Wrote: The cases need to be tossed out quickly, to allow them to proceed to the Supreme Court before Dec 14th, when the electoral college votes.
But they’re tracking as losses so I’m not seeing how the SC will be able to change the outcome, if he has zero lawsuit wins?
While usually the Supreme Court will intervene when lower court rulings conflict with one another, they can hear any case they decide to hear. The problem with a win would be the time taken to present evidence and get a ruling in their favor from a lower court really needs to be spent presenting evidence to the Supreme Court.
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Leigha
Nov 27, 2020 11:34 PM
(Nov 27, 2020 09:28 PM)Syne Wrote: (Nov 27, 2020 09:21 PM)Leigha Wrote: (Nov 27, 2020 08:29 PM)Syne Wrote: The cases need to be tossed out quickly, to allow them to proceed to the Supreme Court before Dec 14th, when the electoral college votes.
But they’re tracking as losses so I’m not seeing how the SC will be able to change the outcome, if he has zero lawsuit wins?
While usually the Supreme Court will intervene when lower court rulings conflict with one another, they can hear any case they decide to hear. The problem with a win would be the time taken to present evidence and get a ruling in their favor from a lower court really needs to be spent presenting evidence to the Supreme Court.
Sooo, if we are to read between the lines here, is the media making these losses appear worse than they are? (in terms of the election outcome possibly changing) The MSM has painted all of this as finished and Trump should concede, already.
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Syne
Nov 28, 2020 03:34 AM
(Nov 27, 2020 11:34 PM)Leigha Wrote: (Nov 27, 2020 09:28 PM)Syne Wrote: While usually the Supreme Court will intervene when lower court rulings conflict with one another, they can hear any case they decide to hear. The problem with a win would be the time taken to present evidence and get a ruling in their favor from a lower court really needs to be spent presenting evidence to the Supreme Court.
Sooo, if we are to read between the lines here, is the media making these losses appear worse than they are? (in terms of the election outcome possibly changing) The MSM has painted all of this as finished and Trump should concede, already.
Yeah, they're trying to play them up as if they are dooming his chances. They are really trying to demoralize Trump supporters.
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Syne
Nov 28, 2020 05:00 AM
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Can't find this reported by any leftist/MS media.
A Nevada judge has agreed to let the Trump campaign present its evidence that fraud and illegalities plagued the state’s election, enough to reverse Joe Biden's win and set an example for other state challenges.
According to Trump officials, the judge set a Dec. 3 hearing date and is allowing 15 depositions. What’s more, the campaign plans to present its evidence that could result in the rejection of tens of thousands of mail-in ballots in Democratic Clark County, where Biden ballots outnumbered Trump ballots by 91,000 in unofficial results.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washi...ada-result
First court to even agree to hear evidence and testimony.
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Syne
Nov 29, 2020 12:01 AM
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In case anyone is not aware of how Trump could still win, CNN actually explained it back in September:
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/VBgw-eEK30w
100% legal and constitutional.
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Magical Realist
Nov 29, 2020 02:18 AM
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Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismisses another Trump election case and strikes down order to halt certification process
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/28/politics/...se/index.h
"The Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed a lawsuit Saturday night from US Rep. Mike Kelly and other Republicans, after they had tried to invalidate absentee voting and block the certification of votes in recent weeks.
The dismissal adds to a growing number of losses in court for Republicans and supporters of President Donald Trump, who have tried to attack voting systems in the wake of President-elect Joe Biden's victory. The lawsuits have failed almost uniformly.
The court was unanimous in deciding against Kelly and others, and refusing to block vote certification on Saturday. Five of the seven judges wrote that they believed the lawsuit had been filed far too late, a year after absentee voting procedures had been established in the state and weeks after millions of Pennsylvanians voted in good faith."
""Upon consideration of the parties’ filings in Commonwealth Court, we hereby dismiss the petition for review with prejudice based upon Petitioners’ failure to file their facial constitutional challenge in a timely manner," the order read.
The ruling comes after state Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough on Wednesday ordered state officials to halt further steps to certify the state's election results one day after Gov. Tom Wolf (D) certified the Keystone State's results for Biden.
Following McCullough's order, Pennsylvania secretary of commonwealth Kathy Boockvar and Wolf appealed the order to the state supreme court.
The latest order by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court reverses McCullough's decision."
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...p-election
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Syne
Nov 29, 2020 03:19 AM
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So if an unconstitutional law goes unchallenged long enough, you can no longer challenge it? That's complete, unconstitutional bullshit. But then, the PA SC is 5 Dems to 2 GOP, and we all know how little Dems care about constitutions.
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Syne
Nov 29, 2020 06:57 AM
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/UVVl7PmbF2s
Smartmatic is the software used in Dominion voting machines.
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Zinjanthropos
Nov 29, 2020 01:38 PM
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In the case of the US, this is what happens when it takes way too long to count votes. Huge vote swings that occur long after the polls close and people have gone to bed should cause alarm and be investigated. Should be no problem at all for a poll to hand count a vote. When you watch results it always amazes me that some polls haven’t reported their results within 3-4 hrs whereas some seem to ready within first hour of closing. What’s usually the cause....voting machine irregularities?
This is how AP does it apparently. The results a news agency reports are their own estimates. So maybe it does take forever to count a vote. Not sure now on when true tabulation is completed. Does this mean on election night tv that voters are not getting real results from the news agencies?
https://www.ap.org/en-us/topics/politics...g-the-vote
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Syne
Nov 29, 2020 06:35 PM
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Yeah, those 4am jumps in votes almost solely for Biden, with no election observers around, are highly suspect. Why would any honest person call off the counting for the night only to restart an hour or so later without bipartisan observers? Only one reason I can fathom...cheating. All the mail-in voting exacerbated election day counting, which seems to have been by design as well. Usually, we don't have anywhere near that many mail-in ballots that have to be removed from envelopes and have people handling them before being tabulated by machine. In-person, you place your own ballot in the tabulator and the results are in real time, allowing precincts to report very shortly after the polls close. Aside from a few instances of poll workers foisting sharpies on voters, instead of the approved ballpoint pens, the voting machine irregularities are almost entirely confined to the tabulation of mail-in votes.
Does this happening in America make foreigners question the security of their own elections?
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