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C C
Feb 6, 2017 11:12 PM
https://aeon.co/essays/is-a-mission-to-m...real-needs
EXCERPT: . . . [Elon] Musk’s plan to colonise Mars is a sign of an older and recurring social problem. What happens when the rich and powerful isolate themselves from everyday concerns? Musk wants to innovate and leave Earth, rather than to take care of it, or fix it, and stay. Like so many of his peers in the innovating and disrupting classes, Musk prefers to dwell in fantasy and science fiction, safely removed from the world of here and now. Musk is a utopian, in the original Greek meaning: ‘no place’. Repulsed by the world we all share, he dreams of a place that does not exist. His announcement parallels an earlier moment in the history of spaceflight...
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Zinjanthropos
Feb 7, 2017 12:59 AM
(Feb 6, 2017 11:12 PM)C C Wrote: https://aeon.co/essays/is-a-mission-to-m...real-needs
EXCERPT: . . . [Elon] Musk’s plan to colonise Mars is a sign of an older and recurring social problem. What happens when the rich and powerful isolate themselves from everyday concerns? Musk wants to innovate and leave Earth, rather than to take care of it, or fix it, and stay. Like so many of his peers in the innovating and disrupting classes, Musk prefers to dwell in fantasy and science fiction, safely removed from the world of here and now. Musk is a utopian, in the original Greek meaning: ‘no place’. Repulsed by the world we all share, he dreams of a place that does not exist. His announcement parallels an earlier moment in the history of spaceflight...
Holy smoke, what's Whitey gonna do when they discover that all the super intelligent aliens they come across consist of Black human like creatures? It would be the ultimate irony to have first contact with an intelligent race who held dark skin in higher regard than white.
Has anyone ever done a study on whether it is more advantageous to have white or dark skin when traversing space?
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Syne
Feb 7, 2017 02:06 AM
(Feb 6, 2017 11:12 PM)C C Wrote: What happens when the rich and powerful isolate themselves from everyday concerns?
DC Beltway?
Quote:Like so many of his peers in the innovating and disrupting classes, Musk prefers to dwell in fantasy and science fiction, safely removed from the world of here and now.
#NotMyPresident?
Quote:Musk is a utopian, in the original Greek meaning: ‘no place’. Repulsed by the world we all share, he dreams of a place that does not exist.
Leftist, multicultural utopia?
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Yazata
Feb 7, 2017 04:27 AM
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It's attitudes like that in the OP that ended space exploration, certainly in my lifetime. It's one of the most disappointing things that's happened in my life.
Apparently the idea was accepted that mankind shouldn't reach for the stars as long as there are social problems here on earth. And since there will always be social problems here on earth, we must always avert our eyes from the heavens.
We probably should eliminate art, music and scientific discovery too, since they are frivolous things that distract us from social problems here on earth. Everyone's mind must always be on radical social revolution.
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Syne
Feb 7, 2017 04:43 AM
It comes down to virtue signaling. If you want to run a business, perform at the Superbowl, or even go to space, the left now demands that you use your platform for political messaging. Musk just hasn't made enough useless but agreeable grunts (raising awareness, etc.) to appease them.
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Ben the Donkey
Feb 7, 2017 02:35 PM
Agreed, Syne.
As a side note, I wonder how a comment like "What happens when the rich and powerful isolate themselves from everyday concerns? Musk wants to innovate and leave Earth, rather than to take care of it, or fix it, and stay" would be received were it applied to the issue of refugees and "illegal" immigration?
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Magical Realist
Feb 7, 2017 08:02 PM
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Elon thinks we're all living in a simulation anyway. Why doesn't he just hack into this Matrix and transcend all this illusory earthbound life that way? I see meditation and lucid dreaming as a sort of firsthand hacking experience of the Realitynet..
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Ben the Donkey
Feb 7, 2017 09:08 PM
While Elon might admit to the possibility of us all living in the matrix, it won't stop him from organising a trip to Mars.
Whereas meditation and dreaming alone isn't going to achieve anything at all, other than to use as a vehicle.
Because, you see, without those who both dreamed and achieved, those who only dreamed would not be free to dream.
Sort of like the child anarchist who sits on his computer typing away about anarchism without any appreciation of what it took to transform him from a hunter-gatherer with no options into an angsty teenager with.. well, the option, ability, and the permission of society to be one.
Dependant entirely, of course, on which particular reality you prefer to reside in.
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Syne
Feb 7, 2017 09:27 PM
(Feb 7, 2017 02:35 PM)Ben the Donkey Wrote: Agreed, Syne.
As a side note, I wonder how a comment like "What happens when the rich and powerful isolate themselves from everyday concerns? Musk wants to innovate and leave Earth, rather than to take care of it, or fix it, and stay" would be received were it applied to the issue of refugees and "illegal" immigration?
Well, since the left wants open borders, I'd assume their criticism of Musk is equivalent to their criticism of US immigrant/refugee policies.
But I do often think that all these military-aged men fleeing would do better to fight for their own homes.
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Secular Sanity
Feb 8, 2017 12:40 AM
Is Noah himself going?
Maybe I’m easy to please but everything that I love is here.
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