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Not really. Both could endless lecture each other on manors, like Carol used to around here, and all we'd be able to glean is that they really do want the socialist utopia...at any cost to freedom.

(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

What do you mean by 'natural order'?

(Nov 6, 2017 09:41 PM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Not really. Both could endless lecture each other on manors, like Carol used to around here, and all we'd be able to glean is that they really do want the socialist utopia...at any cost to freedom.

My wife and her fem buddies really do lecture each other about manors, er ...manners too.  My sisters would fight, each other that is, otherwise they were pacifist (pass a fist- coincidental). One battle in particular when my younger sister wore something from her older sister's closet (they are 2 years apart) that hadn't been worn in 3 years by anybody. Hair pulling, scratching, kicking etc that only ended when my father stepped in. My mom had no luck stopping it, does that mean anything? I doubt it but maybe someone could fund a study to find out. How do fathers feel sending their daughters off to war?

(Nov 6, 2017 10:30 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

What do you mean by 'natural order'?

Evolution...evolutionary psychology...you know, the definition of the words "natural" and "order".

(Nov 6, 2017 11:31 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 6, 2017 09:41 PM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Not really. Both could endless lecture each other on manors, like Carol used to around here, and all we'd be able to glean is that they really do want the socialist utopia...at any cost to freedom.

My wife and her fem buddies really do lecture each other about manors, er ...manners too.  My sisters would fight, each other that is, otherwise they were pacifist (pass a fist- coincidental). One battle in particular when my younger sister wore something from her older sister's closet (they are 2 years apart) that hadn't been worn in 3 years by anybody. Hair pulling, scratching, kicking etc that only ended when my father stepped in. My mom had no luck stopping it, does that mean anything? I doubt it but maybe someone could fund a study to find out. How do fathers feel sending their daughters off to war?

Yeah, a lot of debate over MTV Cribs.

(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

Hmm...I don't want to misinterpret your point here.  What exactly is it that you're trying to say?

Quote:You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

What healthy consequences of natural order do you mean?

(Nov 7, 2017 03:03 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

Hmm...I don't want to misinterpret your point here.  What exactly is it that you're trying to say?

(Nov 7, 2017 03:23 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

What healthy consequences of natural order do you mean?

Is simple English really that hard to decipher?

Maybe it'd be easier if both of you describe your understandings, since it already seems pretty clear to me.
Do you need a primer on evolutionary psychology?

(Nov 7, 2017 05:52 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 7, 2017 03:03 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

Hmm...I don't want to misinterpret your point here.  What exactly is it that you're trying to say?

(Nov 7, 2017 03:23 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

What healthy consequences of natural order do you mean?

Is simple English really that hard to decipher?

Maybe it'd be easier if both of you describe your understandings, since it already seems pretty clear to me.
Do you need a primer on evolutionary psychology?

You can't even explain what you mean? You're an idiot. Don't waste my time.

Okay, time to spoon feed the little trolling baby bird.

(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

Are there any modern, first-world matriarchies? Why not? Even women favor voting men into power.^
Are there any examples of minority rule? Of course there are...like minority rule by white South Africans during apartheid. How did that turn out?

Evolutionary psychology predisposes people to having certain expectations, motives, and strategies. Are these things, shaped by nature, unhealthy?
If evolution is generally a good thing that promotes good survival strategies, aren't most the consequences of that natural order healthy?

(Nov 7, 2017 07:23 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 7, 2017 05:52 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 7, 2017 03:03 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

Hmm...I don't want to misinterpret your point here.  What exactly is it that you're trying to say?

(Nov 7, 2017 03:23 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

What healthy consequences of natural order do you mean?

Is simple English really that hard to decipher?

Maybe it'd be easier if both of you describe your understandings, since it already seems pretty clear to me.
Do you need a primer on evolutionary psychology?

You can't even explain what you mean? You're an idiot. Don't waste my time.

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