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The Masculine Mystique
https://thepointmag.com/criticism/the-ma...-mystique/

EXCERPT: But of course Frankenstein was written by a woman. Today, most writing and reading are done by women, and a great deal of that is about sex. Lowbrow fiction is good sex and highbrow fiction is bad sex. There’s something perverse in using the consumption of such writing to conclude that most books are now for women, as though watching a lot of porn would make men into cinephiles. But the trend goes beyond erotica. It is deep in gender polarization, which affects everything from TikTok content recommendations to voting patterns to dating practices.

Many of my most beautiful female friends are self-styled “femcels.” Well-admired but confoundingly dateless and sexless, they are exposed to virtually no “content” that adequately represents male perceptions and experiences, and are protected by contemporary social etiquette and by men themselves from conversations and interactions that would forcefully get such things across. On a date, one might hear about Taylor Swift concerts and astrological charts; afterward, one might become a character in a story of beastlike sexual control, hearing the rattle of antidepressants on a bedside table.

Perhaps all that has happened is that women of this generation simultaneously believe their elders about what men are and yet have continued to desire men. If men are monsters, if masculinity is a monstrosity, but women keep desiring men, and the more masculine the better, then women must desire monstrosity. This has a certain intuitiveness, and it helps to explain the seeming contradiction in the desires of ambitious self-proclaimed feminists like Romy being aroused by domination.

It also helps to explain the virally popular New York Times article "The Trouble With Wanting Men" from this summer about “heterofatalism,” in which the author Jean Garnett suggests that heterosexuality might be doomed, and that it might be men’s fault. Turned down for sex, she writes: “We all cooed and moaned for the poor wittle fraidy-cat boo-boo, working ourselves into a frenzy of laughter over men’s inability to ‘man up and [expletive] us.’”

When one is so convinced that male appetites are insatiable carnivore engines of carnal enmeshment, it is only logical to see men’s refusal to [__] them as a loss of masculinity -- a failure of men to be men... (MORE - details)
I just hate being stereotyped, either as just another man by straight women, or as a gay man by other gay men. I don't want that sort of trivial role play game foisted upon me, with all the false hopes and disappointments that inevitably follow from it. I will just be me, as bizarre and alien and unrelateable as that makes me in the eyes of others. I fancy myself as part of the EXcel community. lol

Synchronistically this cartoon came up on my news feed right after I posted this:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1892968848281211
(Dec 31, 2025 08:32 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I just hate being stereotyped, either as just another man by straight women, or as a gay man by other gay men. I don't want that sort of trivial role play game foisted upon me, with all the false hopes and disappointments that inevitably follow from it. I will just be me, as bizarre and alien and unrelateable as that makes me in the eyes of others. I fancy myself as part of the EXcel community. lol

Synchronistically this cartoon came up on my news feed right after I posted this:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1892968848281211

Yah, the applicable woman or man should not be penalized for possessing the discipline that the overwhelmingly vast majority of the population lacks, and the personal freedom that such discipline delivers.

Or IOW, it's time for at least one pocket of celibacy to be liberated from both religious tradition and these "I'm making a political statement" movements. Confined to the simple context of: "I just don't want any of that debt generating, disease propagating, devourer of what would otherwise be free time, career-killing unwanted and careless teenage pregnancy, parental enslavement incarceration period, having to buy and engage in or endure things that I would otherwise be uninterested in, quasi-inevitable divorce nightmare, etc mess."

Even those who followed the most traveled path occasionally wonder about what might have been with the other... Wink
Quote:Even those who followed the most traveled path occasionally wonder about what might have been with the other...

LOL Don't worry CC. Bernardo Kastrup says there is no such thing as "could've been." There is no difference between freewill and determinism. Everything came to be because that's what it was. It couldn't have been any other way because it couldn't have been anything other than what it was at the time.
That's one way to absolve yourself of any agency.
Since when do you speak for my conscience?
I said "one way." Are you claiming it fits you?
If there's nothing to regret, there's nothing to be absolved of now is there?
Yeah, no one said you have to regret not having agency.
No one said you don't have agency. We are always doing exactly what we decide to do or not to do. There is no doing otherwise grasshopper. What more do you require than this?
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