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(Oct 15, 2025 02:02 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Do you think they are so uniquely stupid that they would risk the wrath of the US military over one dead gay? @_@ That's sounding like racism.

That's your racist assertion not mine. My assertion is the fact that nobody cares about anyone's sex life when they are just socially interacting with them. And that is due to the simple fact of our common humanity which overrides beliefs and culture. A fundamental "good faith" respect for each other's dignity and privacy. That you don't know this is mindboggling to me.

You mean your wholly untested assertion, where either no one who might have a problem with it knows you're gay, or there's sufficient threat to keep them from acting on it.
Yeah, I take back what I said earlier. You definitely should not, under any circumstances, travel to any majority Muslim area. You don't understand that people think completely differently from yourself, which includes their value of life, especially gay Westerns. Of course you find it mind-boggling. If you're not capable of understanding how others can think fundamentally different than you do, you likely have a very undeveloped theory of mind.

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Quote:I would hope most LGBT know to stay clear of Dearborn.

LOL So no LGBT hate crimes in Dearborn where Muslims are a majority. That basically refutes your whole claim moron. Anybody can cherry-pick hatecrimes in large cities that don't prove anything.

You'd have to first show that there are ANY LGBT in Dearborn for that to hold any water.

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Quote:You being an incel is why you don't understand that simple fact about humainity. It likely became clear to you early on that you'd never find love, so you've built a defensive excuse of "I never desired love"... to justify you being an incel and deny this very basic human desire. But thanks for verifying again what a hermit you are.

Nope..just never wanted it. Lived all my twenties alone with occasional dates and sex. But I never wanted a relationship and so never pursued it. That means my life is exactly how I wanted it to be, ...

Then you are fundamentally damaged as a human being.

Quote:...unlike your loser incel ass who desperately wants a woman but can't even get their attention. lol

Ah, if only you knew.

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Quote:BTW, how do you expect to find "kinship to all human beings" when you don't understand this basic need of theirs. No wonder you like space aliens so much. You probably think you have more in common with them.

Romantic love is not necessary to understand the deep human bond that unites total strangers. That's something totally different. It's why single aromantic people, usually poets and spiritual thinkers, could wax so eloquently about it.

But, since you're a hermit, you don't bond with other humans. You even claim that you don't even want to.
Seems you're substituting abstractions for experience with reality again. 9_9
All the theory in the world means nothing until tested, aka no plan survives contact with the enemy.

Quote:You mean your wholly untested assertion, where either no one who might have a problem with it knows you're gay, or there's sufficient threat to keep them from acting on it.

I already said I've lived my entire life without getting attacked for my sexual orientation. The fact that that is not even a thing that enters peoples' minds when interacting with me or anybody else proves the power of humanity over belief or politics or even personal prejudice. You're basically living in the dark ages when people would search out these things in order to malign and discriminate. That doesn't happen anymore. Not like it used to. We have evolved over the past 70 years to accept people for who they are. Your ghoulish mindset of hate and bigotry has fizzled out little man. We are all one race and species now whether you like it or not.

Quote:You definitely should not, under any circumstances, travel to any majority Muslim area.

You mean like Dearborn, where no LGBT hate crimes ever occur? Ooo..so scary! lol

Quote:You don't understand that people think completely differently from yourself, which includes their value of life, especially gay Westerns.

LOL What gay westerns? Are you going retarded on us again?

Quote:Of course you find it mind-boggling. If you're not capable of understanding how others can think fundamentally different than you do, you likely have a very undeveloped theory of mind.

I've lived around people of all values, beliefs, and thinkings for 66 years. 9 of those years spent in the Navy working with people of every race and ethnicity and age and belief system. Not once has anyone ever disrespected me or attacked me in any way for my orientation. I know that spoils your little "kill all the queers" party, but who tf cares. Get out more and associate with real people instead of living in your little online MAGA bubble. We're all humans at heart out here.

Quote:You'd have to first show that there are ANY LGBT in Dearborn for that to hold any water.

LOL LGBTs are at least 10% of the population now if not more. Gen Z polls around 20%. So yeah, there are LGBTs in Dearborn. Even Muslim ones. Does that unnerve you?

Quote:Then you are fundamentally damaged as a human being.

LOL Says the sociopathic MAGA incel who despises women, gays, trans, Palestinians, the mentally ill, hollywood liberals, and non-white people because his political party tells him to.

Quote:But, since you're a hermit, you don't bond with other humans. You even claim that you don't even want to.

I bond with everyone I meet and talk to everyday both in real life and online. It all flows naturally from my acceptance of all people as fellow humans with the same needs and desires and problems. Which is an ethical commitment I don't expect you will ever grasp. You are just too trapped inside your political groupthink where everything is comfortably us vs them without the complexities of ever having to actually relate to real multifaceted individuals.

(Oct 15, 2025 05:38 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I already said I've lived my entire life without getting attacked for my sexual orientation. The fact that that is not even a thing that enters peoples' minds when interacting with me or anybody else proves the power of humanity over belief or politics or even personal prejudice. You're basically living in the dark ages when people would search out these things in order to malign and discriminate. That doesn't happen anymore. Not like it used to. We have evolved over the past 70 years to accept people for who they are. Your ghoulish mindset of hate and bigotry has fizzled out little man. We are all one race and species now whether you like it or not.

Many Muslims haven't "evolved."
Yes, stay in your nice, safe Portlandia bubble.

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Quote:You definitely should not, under any circumstances, travel to any majority Muslim area.

You mean like Dearborn, where no LGBT hate crimes ever occur? Ooo..so scary! lol

Well, I guess you could be the first LGBT to go there and test it.

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Quote:You don't understand that people think completely differently from yourself, which includes their value of life, especially gay Westerns.

LOL What gay westerns? Are you going retarded on us again?

You are gay and you're from the West. It wasn't a riddle, moron.
Muslims don't value life the way Westerners generally do, much less if you're gay.

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Quote:Of course you find it mind-boggling. If you're not capable of understanding how others can think fundamentally different than you do, you likely have a very undeveloped theory of mind.

I've lived around people of all values, beliefs, and thinkings for 66 years. 9 of those years spent in the Navy working with people of every race and ethnicity and age and belief system. Not once has anyone ever disrespected me or attacked me in any way for my orientation. I know that spoils your little "kill all the queers" party, but who tf cares. Get out more and associate with real people instead of living in your little online MAGA bubble. We're all humans at heart out here.

We're talking about fundamentalist Muslims, not people in the Navy and Portlandians.
Again, does anyone even realize you're gay? Or are you just that old fat man that comes out of his house every once in awhile.

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Quote:You'd have to first show that there are ANY LGBT in Dearborn for that to hold any water.

LOL LGBTs are at least 10% of the population now if not more. Gen Z polls around 20%. So yeah, there are LGBTs in Dearborn. Even Muslim ones. Does that unnerve you?

If you had half a brain, you'd know that simply doesn't follow.
The demographics for the entire country are not the same in every part of the country, dullard.

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Quote:Then you are fundamentally damaged as a human being.

LOL Says the sociopathic MAGA incel who despises women, gays, trans, Palestinians, and non-white people because his political party tells him to.

There you go again, stereotyping and demonizing people because your group think tells you to.

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Quote:But, since you're a hermit, you don't bond with other humans. You even claim that you don't even want to.

I bond with everyone I meet and talk to everyday both in real life and online. It all flows naturally from my acceptance of all people as fellow humans with the same needs and desires and problems. Which is an ethical commitment I don't expect you will ever grasp. You are just too trapped inside your political groupthink where everything is comfortably us vs them without the complexities of ever having to actually relate to real multifaceted individuals.

I don't think you even understand what bonding means. You just said you don't understand the basic, universal human need and desire for love. But that's okay, any day now the aliens will come for you. Maybe they can explain it to you.

As I've repeatedly told you, conservatives understand leftists better than vice verse. That requires a more developed theory of mind.

Quote:Many Muslims haven't "evolved."

Let's check on that. You are claiming most Muslims believe in the part of Sharia law that demands the execution of gays. Here's a look at most of the 4.5 Muslims living in the US:

"It is difficult to provide an exact number, as practicing Sharia is not a simple yes-or-no question for many Muslims in the U.S. Instead, it's more accurate to say that a significant portion of the Muslim population in the US follows certain principles of Sharia in their personal lives, such as dietary laws and prayer, but they overwhelmingly prefer to live under U.S. law.

Following Sharia in personal life: Many Muslims in the U.S. follow Sharia principles in their private, personal lives, such as observing religious rituals, dietary guidelines, and marriage customs.

Support for U.S. law: Most Muslims in the U.S. do not want to replace the U.S. legal system with Sharia law and are content practicing their faith within the current legal framework.

No communities under Sharia law: There are no communities in the U.S. that operate under Sharia law, as religious law cannot replace the U.S. Constitution and federal laws."

So no..they don't believe in that at all. They accept the laws of our country. And that's why we never hear on the news that Muslims are killing gay people. Rather we hear about MAGA cretins like you attacking Muslims and burning down mosques.

Quote:Well, I guess you could be the first LGBT to go there and test it.

You have proof of your claim that there are no LGBTs in Dearborn? Let's see it. Otherwise, STFU..

Quote:If you had half a brain, you'd know that simply doesn't follow.
The demographics for the entire country are not the same in every part of the country, dullard.

Nope..it's absolutely true. Wherever there are babies being born 10% are LGBT. The distribution is even because it is largely biologically caused.

Quote:I don't think you even understand what bonding means. You just said you don't understand the basic, universal human need and desire for love.

Liar. I said I don't have the need for sexual or romantic love, which even then doesn't preclude me from understanding it thru empathy. I totally understand the universal love and bonding that occurs between all humans. And I practice it all the time. Something you would do well to begin yourself if you don't want to end up a cranky and miserable old dog turd.

(Oct 15, 2025 06:38 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Many Muslims haven't "evolved."

Let's check on that. You are claiming most Muslims believe in the part of Sharia law that demands the execution of gays.

No, if only you could read worth a damn, you'd see that I didn't say "most."

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Quote:Well, I guess you could be the first LGBT to go there and test it.

You have proof of your claim that there are no LGBTs in Dearborn? Let's see it. Otherwise, STFU..

No, there are no LGBTQ-specific bars, venues, or community centers located directly within Dearborn, Michigan. Information from multiple sources confirms that LGBTQ-specific organizations and social spaces are primarily located in neighboring cities like Detroit and Ferndale, though the University of Michigan–Dearborn does have on-campus resources for students.
- Google AI

So if they stick to the university and don't have any openly LGBT venues, they seem to do alright.
BTW, Dearborn is not majority Muslim.
Then there's the fact that police do not generally list the religion of people involved in crimes.

And again, if only you could read, I never said there were zero LGBT in Dearborn. Go check for yourself, illiterate moron.

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Quote:If you had half a brain, you'd know that simply doesn't follow.
The demographics for the entire country are not the same in every part of the country, dullard.

Nope..it's absolutely true. Wherever there are babies being born 10% are LGBT. The distribution is even because it is largely biologically caused.

That is scientifically illiterate... and completely expected from such a dullard like you.
Even the Detroit metro area refutes your illiterate nonsense:

While there is no specific data for the city of Dearborn itself, the Detroit-Warren-Dearborn metropolitan area has an estimated LGBTQ+ population of approximately 131,000 adults, representing about 3.9% of the metro area's adult population. This figure is derived from data on larger metropolitan areas, not individual cities within them.
- Google AI

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Quote:I don't think you even understand what bonding means. You just said you don't understand the basic, universal human need and desire for love.

Liar. I said I don't have the need for sexual or romantic love, which even then doesn't preclude me from understanding it thru empathy. I totally understand the universal love and bonding that occurs between all humans. And I practice it all the time. Something you would do well to begin yourself if you don't want to end up a cranky and miserable old dog turd.

You imagining what love is like doesn't mean you have any real clue. No wonder you're such an ignorant leftist. You've never tested any of your beliefs against reality.
You've never demonstrated the slightest theory of mind necessary for true empathy, much less love.

Quote:No, there are no LGBTQ-specific bars, venues, or community centers located directly within Dearborn, Michigan. Information from multiple sources confirms that LGBTQ-specific organizations and social spaces are primarily located in neighboring cities like Detroit and Ferndale, though the University of Michigan–Dearborn does have on-campus resources for students.
- Google AI

So if they stick to the university and don't have any openly LGBT venues, they seem to do alright.
BTW, Dearborn is not majority Muslim.
Then there's the fact that police do not generally list the religion of people involved in crimes.

And again, if only you could read, I never said there were zero LGBT in Dearborn. Go check for yourself, illiterate moron.

Liar. You didn't say there are no gay bars in Dearborn. You said there are no LGBTs period. Here's where you said it:

Quote:You'd have to first show that there are ANY LGBT in Dearborn for that to hold any water.

So I'm still waiting for your proof of that claim.

Quote:While there is no specific data for the city of Dearborn itself, the Detroit-Warren-Dearborn metropolitan area has an estimated LGBTQ+ population of approximately 131,000 adults, representing about 3.9% of the metro area's adult population. This figure is derived from data on larger metropolitan areas, not individual cities within them.

So you just proved there are LGBTs living in Dearborn. Like a dumbass you just refuted your own claim. lol

Quote:You imagining what love is like doesn't mean you have any real clue. No wonder you're such an ignorant leftist. You've never tested any of your beliefs against reality.

Third time..I've been proving that humans bond over their common humanity for all my life. You otoh have proven nothing. You are an ignorant political hack living in a bubble. Get a life and discover the power of compassion for others.

(Oct 15, 2025 05:01 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Liar. You didn't say there are no gay bars in Dearborn. You said there are no LGBTs period. Here's where you said it:

Quote:You'd have to first show that there are ANY LGBT in Dearborn for that to hold any water.

So I'm still waiting for your proof of that claim.

Illiterate moron. Asking you to show there are any is not claiming the inverse.
You could have simply done that, but you were far too lazy. Instead, you made up bullshit in your addled little head.

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Quote:While there is no specific data for the city of Dearborn itself, the Detroit-Warren-Dearborn metropolitan area has an estimated LGBTQ+ population of approximately 131,000 adults, representing about 3.9% of the metro area's adult population. This figure is derived from data on larger metropolitan areas, not individual cities within them.

So you just proved there are LGBTs living in Dearborn. Like a dumbass you just refuted your own claim. lol

Again, illiterate moron, "no specific data for the city of Dearborn itself" does not prove any LBGT live in Dearborn.
But it still proves your claim that all demographics are the same everywhere is scientifically illiterate and even just commonsense idiocy.

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Quote:You imagining what love is like doesn't mean you have any real clue. No wonder you're such an ignorant leftist. You've never tested any of your beliefs against reality.

Third time..I've been proving that humans bond over their common humanity for all my life. You otoh have proven nothing. You are an ignorant political hack living in a bubble. Get a life and discover the power of compassion for others.

Research has shown that conservatives understand the left better than vice versa. That means you are literally the one in the bubble.
You've proven nothing but the fact that you're a fat old hermit incel who hears voices in your head and has delusions about love you've never experienced.

LOL It's like talking to a sewer pipe. I leave you to your comforting group think delusions..You aren't worth correcting anymore.

Says the illiterate who likes to insult others but can't take it.

Don’t know if I’m helping or hurting with this one? Something ain’t right ……. but it’s AI. Then again, if you start something (like a thread) then you might be looking for answers…..I don’t know. Yikes!

Quote: AI Overview

The term "hermit incel" describes an involuntarily celibate individual who has become a social recluse, often staying inside for months. While a hermit is defined by self-imposed social withdrawal, the "incel" portion of this label signifies a person who blames their involuntary sexual and romantic isolation on women and society. The combination paints a picture of profound social alienation mixed with resentment and misogyny.

The path to becoming a hermit incel

Studies on incels show that their social isolation is a key factor, often exacerbated by romantic and social rejection, bullying during formative years, and mental health issues.

A recent quantitative study showed that 50% of incels surveyed were living with a parent or caregiver, and 17% were not in education, employment, or training.

When faced with rejection, many incels use solitary and problematic coping mechanisms, such as withdrawal and self-blame, that further perpetuate their social isolation.

Loneliness and a lack of social support are common themes, which can lead incels to gravitate toward online forums that provide a sense of belonging and community.

What happens in online incel forums
In online forums, socially isolated incels find a community where their negative beliefs are reinforced, often leading to a more extreme and dangerous mindset.

Echo chamber effect: The online space can function as an echo chamber that reinforces and validates incel beliefs, deepening their anger and sense of victimhood. This can cause a feedback loop where mental health issues worsen and social isolation becomes more pronounced.

Hostile rhetoric: Some online incel forums are characterized by misogynistic and hateful language, which can foster extremist views. They may blame women ("Stacys") and conventionally attractive men ("Chads") for their problems.

Risk of radicalization: For a small but dangerous subset of the incel community, this online immersion can lead to radicalization and the justification of violence. Figures like Elliot Rodger, who committed a mass killing, have been praised by extremist elements within the community. However, studies show that most incels are not violent, and extreme rhetoric often comes from a small minority.

Distinction between hermits and hermit incels
A hermit is a general term for someone who lives in solitude, but this does not imply a misogynistic worldview. In contrast, a hermit incel's isolation is specifically linked to a worldview rooted in involuntary celibacy and resentment.

Motivation for isolation: A hermit's isolation can be due to many reasons, including a simple preference for solitude. A hermit incel's withdrawal is explicitly driven by their sexual frustration and anger toward those they blame for their situation.

Internal vs. external blame: A person living as a traditional hermit is not necessarily angry at others. A hermit incel, however, believes they are victims of a rigged "sexual marketplace" and blames others for their predicament.

Mental state: While a hermit may find peace in solitude, studies show that incels suffer from significantly higher rates of depression and anxiety compared to the general population.