(Nov 19, 2024 07:36 AM)Yazata Wrote: [ -> ]And once again, I think that the word 'proof' is being misused. Proofs only exist in logic and mathematics. What Frank seems to be demanding here is something like "An argument/body of evidence that will finally convince me".Probably just means what anyone means in common vernacular. Evidence that is compelling for the majority.
(Nov 20, 2024 06:16 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting that in the so-called resolved cases the objects filmed, like the GOFAST pilot video and the Aguadilla Puerto Rico video, are never identified at all. I wouldn't exactly call that resolved.
(Nov 18, 2024 06:10 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Aside from the appeal to authority, how does that differ from years of your own claims?
Just some more details? But still no closer to any explanation.
Quote:Aside from the appeal to authority, how does that differ from years of your own claims?
Just some more details? But still no closer to any explanation.
Quote:No one said quit exploring things. I'm just on the side of not jumping to unwarranted conclusions when no one knows or even has evidence that could compel majority consensus. In the lack of extraordinary evidence, I assume the ordinary. And if the evidence doesn't convince the majority of people, it obviously is not extraordinary.
Quote:Even your faith in the experts "confirming" something only leads to things "never identified
(Nov 21, 2024 06:29 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:No one said quit exploring things. I'm just on the side of not jumping to unwarranted conclusions when no one knows or even has evidence that could compel majority consensus. In the lack of extraordinary evidence, I assume the ordinary. And if the evidence doesn't convince the majority of people, it obviously is not extraordinary.
Majority consensus is highly overrated. There was a time when the majority thought the world was flat. Even today the majority believes in some divine creation event instead of evolution. So instead of committing the fallacy of argumentum ad populum and waiting for the masses to be convinced, better to go forward with the continuing evidence that is mounting that there is some sort of non-human intelligence on our planet capable of extraordinary feats of technology.
Very few people throughout the Middle Ages believed that the world was flat. Thinkers on both sides of the question were Christians (Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox), and for them, the shape of the earth did not equate with progressive or traditionalist views. It is true that most clerics were more concerned with salvation than the shape of the earth — that was their job, after all. But God’s works in nature were important to them as well. Columbus could not have proved that the world was round because this fact was already known. Nor was he a rebellious modern; rather, he was a good Catholic who undertook his voyage believing he was doing God’s work. A transformation was taking place in fifteenth-century views of the earth, but it had more to do with a new way of mapping than with a move from flat earth to sphere.
- Myth: That Before Columbus, Geographers and Other Educated People Thought the Earth Was Flat
Quote:Yet "never identified."Quote:Even your faith in the experts "confirming" something only leads to things "never identified
When a government agency comes forward with video evidence of uaps and a detailed profile of them based on its scientific analysis of hundreds of videos and eyewitness accounts, then we can have a reasonably strong confidence that it knows what it's talking about. There is simply no reason to doubt it.
Quote:Yet "never identified."
(Nov 22, 2024 03:48 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Yet "never identified."
Who says "never" identified? We may not know WHAT they are at present, but we definitely know THAT they are. And we know what they look like. And that's tremendous progress.
(Nov 20, 2024 06:16 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting that in the so-called resolved cases the objects filmed, like the GOFAST pilot video and the Aguadilla Puerto Rico video, are never identified at all. I wouldn't exactly call that resolved.
Quote:Without knowing WHAT something is, it's just as likely THAT it is a mirage, sensor anomaly, ball lightning, sun dog, etc.. "Never identified" leaves the field wide open.