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Bill Nye & the science lie + Coronavirus vaccines are sinister plot of White Devils

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Bill Nye and the science lie: Celebrity scientist predicted vaccine would take two years
https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/14/bill-...two-years/

EXCERPT: As far as a vaccine was concerned, Nye said that it was likely to be two years before a reliable vaccine was developed. “It’s two years, everybody. Two years before a vaccine,” Nye said.

“Even with all the technology we have right now?” the reporter pressed.

“Yeah, I think two years to get something that people trust,” Nye repeated.

... But Operation Warp Speed{*} appears to have delivered much faster than Nye expected... (MORE - details, video)

{*} Footnote: "Other pharmaceutical companies, including Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca and Moderna (whose vaccine is currently being evaluated for FDA emergency use authorization) all received U.S. government money for vaccine development and entered into approval-based acquisition agreements like Pfizer’s. Neither Pfizer nor BioNTech took funds from the government to develop its vaccine, only to manufacture and distribute it when and if approved." (Companies not receiving research funding)


Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan calls the vaccine ‘toxic waste,’ refers to white people as ‘crackers’
https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/14/louis...e-skeptic/

INTRO: Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan advised his followers against coronavirus vaccination in a speech Saturday, calling the breakthrough vaccine “toxic waste” that would harm the black community. Farrakhan, 87, also sprinkled several anti-white pejoratives throughout his 70-minute speech, referring to white people as “crackers” and “devils.”

“We are so frightened over this Covid, now they’re getting us ready for this vaccine,” Farrakhan said at a virtual event for the National Afrikan/Black Leadership Summit. “How could you allow him to stick a needle into you, saying he’s helping you?”

Farrakhan’s diatribe came a day before Pfizer began shipping millions of doses of its coronavirus vaccine to health facilities across the country. The first shots were administered to health care workers on Monday.

Health experts have expressed concerns that members of minority groups, who have tended to be at higher risk of serious illness from coronavirus, will avoid taking the vaccine due to distrust of the medical profession and the government... (MORE)

That Pew poll, where apparently Asian Americans are the only group that overwhelmingly cares about ending this: "Black Americans continue to stand out as less inclined to get vaccinated than other racial and ethnic groups: 42% would do so, compared with 63% of Hispanic and 61% of White adults. English-speaking Asian Americans are even more likely to say they would definitely or probably get vaccinated (83%)."

RELATED (July, 2020) ... Farrakhan: Fauci, Gates Foundation 'Want to Depopulate the Earth': Dr. Anthony Fauci and Bill and Melinda Gates are seeking to "depopulate the Earth" by pushing potential vaccines to end the global coronavirus pandemic, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said Saturday in a video that went viral online. [...] "I say to the African presidents: Do not take their medications," he said.


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/9cfqVSCPvXE
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I like Bill Nye. I've seen plenty of Pharmaceutical companies go through the FDA acceptance procedure. It takes years and lots of cash. Even if FDA labels it a breakthrough drug doesn't make it go any faster. So many Small Pharma companies with drugs that will aid in the suffering of the afflicted just don't get to the finish line. Usually their last hope is for Big Pharma to buy them out. Hell, Big Pharma doesn't do much of their own R & D anymore. BP may have warehouses full of drugs with side effect lists that takes longer than a 1 minute TV commercial to announce and that's what you'll get even if there is something better.

Personally I think the new vaccine will work for some but I do think there is or will be something better down the road. I'm willing to be one of the last for this vaccine if nothing else comes along. Just want to get back to some normalcy.

If you feel you don't have to take it or that it is toxic to your health then don't take it. What are the odds Farrakhan gets the shot? Anyways here in Canada the priority is Health Care workers, elderly & Indigenous people first. OK by me. A little ironic that for all their protesting against the white establishment the native population isn't objecting to being first in line.
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(Dec 15, 2020 05:56 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [...] If you feel you don't have to take it or that it is toxic to your health then don't take it. What are the odds Farrakhan gets the shot?


Just the fact that he's still alive means that he can't be spurning precautions like Herman Cain did. But those practices could be wholly distinct from his conception of vaccines being a menacing white product. Nevertheless, just like an inversion of the "rules for thee but not for me” attitude of Dem leaders ignoring their own preaching to the public, I wouldn't be surprised if Farrakhan secretly takes it.

Quote:Anyways here in Canada the priority is Health Care workers, elderly & Indigenous people first. OK by me. A little ironic that for all their protesting against the white establishment the native population isn't objecting to being first in line.


That odd receptiveness certainly isn't the result of Leftists being UNAWARE in the past that Canadian indigenous people were yet another population group that they could exploit with the grievance dogma of their hegemonic conspiracies and deceptive, strategic altruism posturing.{*} And they did make an effort to influence and recruit. Some North American natives directly identified with Marxism, rather than merely borrowing its tactics, grudge-mentality crusder-ism, pretentious expertise via invented technical gibberish, and general para-religious fanaticism.

Canada: indigenous struggle and the fight for socialism – revolution, not reconciliation! (Nov 2020): But many Indigenous leaders under the radicalization of events were pushed to the left, with a layer identifying with revolutionary Marxism. The need to broaden the struggle out to non-Indigenous people, and to link it to a broader fight against capitalism, were also being openly explored and debated. [...] There were a series of occupations of government and Indian Affairs offices across Canada at this time, complemented by several roadblocks.

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{*} The Native National Question and the Marxist-Leninist Movement (1977): The Native question assumes particular importance in our struggle to develop a revolutionary programme in Canada because it is central to any concrete analysis of Canada itself. We cannot fully understand the nature of the Canadian bourgeoisie or the role of American imperialism in Canada without grasping the question of Canada’s North.

[...] It is a Marxist-Leninist principle, put forward by Lenin and defended by Stalin and Mao, that colonized peoples have the absolute right to self-determination, up to and including secession from their oppressor nation. As Communists we recognize that struggles which weaken the hegemony of the world imperialist system are progressive. This means that the bourgeois democratic revolutions in territories which have not yet achieved bourgeois democracy, that political independence in countries which do not yet have political independence, is a progressive step from the standpoint of the world proletarian revolution; they are a part of the world proletarian revolution and they help to realize it. This is part of the Marxist-Leninist understanding that the Third World is the motive force propelling history forward today.

[...] Native Canada is a colony, and as such it is to be understood in terms of the Marxist-Leninist principle, affirmed by Stalin and Mao, that colonies have the right to self-determination from their oppressor nations. All national liberation struggles of the Third World should be understood from the point of view of this principle.
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Native people aren't stupid. They have their own teams of treaty lawyers and use old outdated parchment the same way Americans stand by their constitution, by law one has to uphold them. Our Native Nations going independent is too much for gov't to bear, just the thought of allowing a toehold for communism has turned into a massive payday for the aboriginal people here. I wish they sold shares, so much money with so little financial investment. It may be the best kind of terrorism out there, non physical yet mind blowing. For gov't it is a win-win, no communists and votes from left. I wonder what the US would do if our native nations went independent and the commies moved into those areas.

Our aboriginals make scads of money without firing a shot. It is the template for peaceful revolt. Like looting without breaking in or torching the business. But like anything else, there's always those who will capitalize. Few years ago the tribes were told they had to account for all the money Canadian taxpayers paid them but quite a few refused to open the books. Rumour has it that there are chiefs, who are supposed to dole out the cash, now holding offshore bank accounts. IOW very wealthy families. Hell one group just offered up billions to buy a Canadian Casino operator.
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(Dec 16, 2020 05:07 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [...] Rumour has it that there are chiefs, who are supposed to dole out the cash, now holding offshore bank accounts. IOW very wealthy families. Hell one group just offered up billions to buy a Canadian Casino operator.


Sounds like they might have their own indigenous, opportunistic version of the "Guiding Hundredth" in the US -- or rather whatever is politically descended from that prescription (the "klan with a tan" as some Black conservatives and libertarians call such).

The tribe that I'm a member of (on paper) is so interracial, somewhat right of center, Christian, military service oriented, and integrated into the general community that they're almost the antithesis of the news-worthy grudge confrontations in other areas. (Or maybe that's purely the sense I get from the tribal leadership and its circulated literature -- doubtless there are some light, militant orientations in the herd.) Occasionally they do get their hackles up, though, but arguably still a little too patient about slowly, legally correcting how an _X_ tried to screw them over.
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Quote:The tribe that I'm a member of (on paper) 


Never really checked the family tree but my surname is no different than that of 1% of North American Indians. Apparently there's 80% chance I've white ancestry and 14% African American. If I was in that 1% then I'm exempt from some taxes plus my kids would have received $12K a year until they were 18, just to name a couple perks. There is a sign I drive by all the time along the highway about a missing indigenous woman with my surname. Around these parts I'd say Hill is the most  popular. 

From Wiki: In 1890, the Commissioner of Indian Affairs ordered Indian names on the reservations to be changed so that each Indian would be given an English Christian name and retain the surname. Surnames were to be translated to English and shortened if they were too long. ... “Now every family has a name.

My S-I-L  definitely has native indian heritage so all her kids, my nieces and nephews, carry an Indian Status card which one needs to be eligible for benefits paid for by taxpayers. I'll admit it's a sore spot for many but we haven't revolted, yet. Canada is so multi-cultural and the diversity is such that I can't see the benefits to native people going on forever. As I said before, diversity means many people from far worse situations than NA Indians. Wouldn't we all like to be tax exempt? I think being native enables one to capture what the political left is vying for. Will the well run dry some day?
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(Dec 15, 2020 04:58 AM)C C Wrote: Bill Nye and the science lie: Celebrity scientist predicted vaccine would take two years

Except that Bill Nye isn't a scientist. He's an engineer turned stand-up comedian turned local TV children's-show host turned celebrity science evangelist.

Those aren't always bad things (I have great respect for engineers) and he does have a technical background and some experience working for Boeing in Seattle.

But that being said, I don't consider him any kind of authority on the biomedical sciences.

Quote:As far as a vaccine was concerned, Nye said that it was likely to be two years before a reliable vaccine was developed. “It’s two years, everybody. Two years before a vaccine,” Nye said.

“Even with all the technology we have right now?” the reporter pressed.

“Yeah, I think two years to get something that people trust,” Nye repeated.

Interesting slippy-slide there. [Two year before a vaccine] to [two years to get something that people trust]. Which aren't the same thing at all. Lots of non-scientific forces influence what people trust.

Expect another slippy-slide from [the vaccine shouldn't be trusted] because it is a product of the Trump administration, to [it's "anti-science denialism" if you fail to get vaccinated] after the Biden administration starts pushing it. I expect that shift to come as early as February.

I won't even comment on Louis Farrakhan. He has less than zero credibility in my estimation, meaning that whatever he says, I become more inclined to believe the opposite.
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(Dec 16, 2020 07:48 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: [...] My S-I-L definitely has native indian heritage so all her kids, my nieces and nephews, carry an Indian Status card which one needs to be eligible for benefits paid for by taxpayers.


Yah, "to be eligible". In my tribe, you don't receive any benefits from BQ verification unless you apply for each. If officially a member, they will automatically send you voter registration and ballots, tribal news/updates, etc.

Our dad got my brother and I CDIB cards early on to keep his side of the family heritage going or some-such thing. We're only an eighth, which is low enough to seem like a joke or feel like an imposter when looking in a mirror. The full and half bloods of certain tribes supposedly have disparaging names for the smaller fractionals amongst them, but they wouldn't need to worry about the indifferent two of us parasitizing on the limited pie.

Most tribes in the US seem to have minimums for blood quantum ranging from one-half to one-sixteenth. But a few are lineal, which perhaps means that an individual could only be 1/128 blood and still qualify purely due to having an ancestor in the mix and CDIB cards being granted to each successive generation in the family.

Quote:I'll admit it's a sore spot for many but we haven't revolted, yet. Canada is so multi-cultural and the diversity is such that I can't see the benefits to native people going on forever. As I said before, diversity means many people from far worse situations than NA Indians. Wouldn't we all like to be tax exempt? I think being native enables one to capture what the political left is vying for. Will the well run dry some day?

The prospect doesn't matter to the Protector Lords. To maintain a sub-population of grateful voters, there's even a desire to add more -- SocJus wants those of slave ancestry also compensated, etc (which would likewise include people who look white). Favors don't really guarantee loyalty, but creating dependence can, similar to a junkie/pusher relationship.
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(Dec 17, 2020 12:34 AM)C C Wrote: Yah, "to be eligible". In my tribe, you don't receive any benefits from BQ verification unless you apply for each. If officially a member, they will automatically send you voter registration and ballots, tribal news/updates, etc.

Our dad got my brother and I CDIB cards early on to keep his side of the family heritage going or some-such thing. We're only an eighth, which is low enough to seem like a joke or feel like an imposter when looking in a mirror. The full and half bloods of certain tribes supposedly have disparaging names for the smaller fractionals amongst them, but they wouldn't need to worry about the indifferent two of us parasitizing on the limited pie.

Most tribes in the US seem to have minimums for blood quantum ranging from one-half to one-sixteenth. But a few are lineal, which perhaps means that an individual could only be 1/128 blood and still qualify purely due to having an ancestor in the mix and CDIB cards being granted to each successive generation in the family.

The prospect doesn't matter to the Lord Protectors. To maintain a sub-population of grateful voters, there's even a desire to add more -- SocJus wants those of slave ancestry also compensated, etc (which would likewise include people who look white). Favors don't really guarantee loyalty, but creating dependence can, similar to a junkie/pusher relationship.

My S-I-L’s kids are 1/8 native. That’s as far as it gets, the cutoff, then back to being of some other ancestry. Wouldn’t surprise me if govt goes to sixteenths just to maintain, build and please the voter roll. 

I think many have the wrong image of Native Americans like minding their own business, peaceful families that lived idyllically in tents like on a permanent camping holiday trip to Algonquin Park. Truth is they’re just as guilty of going to war, capture and enslavement, thievery & murder etc as anyone. Didn’t the word Apache mean enemy to all their neighbors?
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