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Smelly seeing eye dogs

#1
confused2 Offline
In the UK it is the law that you can't refuse service to a handicapped (impaired) person. Blind people are entitled to bring their guide dogs (no matter how smelly) into a restaurant. If a blind person chooses to eat in your restaurant (say) every Saturday night and other customers leave because they can't stand the smell of the dog - that's it - your business is fucked. Should a balance be struck between 'rights' and ... I give in.
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#2
stryder Offline
An apt Manager could turn that situation round, for instance if they gave a bunch of vouchers out to the nearby blind schools etc they could fill it every Saturday with blind people, perhaps throw in a few games of "guess what your eating" and "where is your guide-dog".
At least in that way they pick up extra clientèle, although the upholstery might need a once over with a vacuum and some antibacterials for Sundays clients. You might even be able to get some of those people with "emotional support" animals to eat there too.
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#3
C C Offline
Dress codes for people, odor codes for canines? Never even wondered... But surely guide dogs are either trained to hold it in or have to be wearing diapers (like a pet chicken) if entering an establishment. As a street & sidewalk pooper-scooper is no solution there. The potential smell of non-odor absorbing diapers, though, would still ram right through regular bathing / grooming as an otherwise prescribed remedy.

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#4
Secular Sanity Offline
An unbathed human is just as offensive as an unbathed dog.

There are laws and law suits surrounding perfume, body odor, hygiene, and farting. People have been fired, ejected from public areas, and removed from planes.
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#5
Secular Sanity Offline
I checked and here in the states it is all right to have a policy that says that dogs must be clean and free from offensive odors.
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#6
confused2 Offline
I like Stryder's suggestion - the "Guess where your guide dog is right now." quiz. Unfortunately the absence of pong would probably give the game away.

SS Wrote:I checked and here in the states it is all right to have a policy that says that dogs must be clean and free from offensive odors.

I don't think we have that in the UK.

Writing in the Guardian (a well-respected site in the UK) ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...eople-laws

Siobhan Meade Wrote:On one occasion, I was shopping in an Express branch of Sainsbury’s in central London when staff told me my guide dog was dirty, smelly and not welcome. Initially I refused to leave but staff threatened to call the police. I knew I was within my rights to stay, but since the store was packed with rush-hour shoppers – none of whom seemed remotely interested in speaking up for me – I chose to leave. I didn’t want to continue the humiliation. Like Makri, I burst into tears, never to return.
Siobhan doesn't consider for a moment that the rush-hour shoppers might also have wanted her dirty, smelly dog to go someplace else.
At this point I'd like to thank an unknown person for vandalising my nice new car - it makes it much easier to care not a jot about persons unknown to me.
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Sep 4, 2018 12:31 AM)confused2 Wrote: I like Stryder's suggestion - the "Guess where your guide dog is right now." quiz. Unfortunately the absence of pong would probably give the game away.

SS Wrote:I checked and here in the states it is all right to have a policy that says that dogs must be clean and free from offensive odors.

I don't think we have that in the UK.

Writing in the Guardian (a well-respected site in the UK) ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...eople-laws

Siobhan Meade Wrote:On one occasion, I was shopping in an Express branch of Sainsbury’s in central London when staff told me my guide dog was dirty, smelly and not welcome. Initially I refused to leave but staff threatened to call the police. I knew I was within my rights to stay, but since the store was packed with rush-hour shoppers – none of whom seemed remotely interested in speaking up for me – I chose to leave. I didn’t want to continue the humiliation. Like Makri, I burst into tears, never to return.
Siobhan doesn't consider for a moment that the rush-hour shoppers might also have wanted her dirty, smelly dog to go someplace else.
At this point I'd like to thank an unknown person for vandalising my nice new car - it makes it much easier to care not a jot about persons unknown to me.

Quote:Siobhan Meade
staff told me my guide dog was dirty, smelly and not welcome. Initially I refused to leave but staff threatened to call the police. I knew I was within my rights to stay,

wrong !

there is a massive and distinct difference between right of access and right to occupy.
the retail store which is public right to access yet private property has no right to occupy.
the moment a staff member tells a customer to leave, the customer must comply in the same manner were they on a persons front lawn.

the deliberate muddying of these 2 laws only makes life more difficult for dissabled access people.

i have never expereinced a poorly kept guide dog.
they cost close to $3,000.00 pounds to train and take years to train. the idea that someone is knowingly and continualy miss treating their guide dog is a clear sign they need intervention.
the person should be reported so the government assistance who is paid for by working class tax & donations can go and clean the dog and make sure it is not sick and sort out the dissabled person.

advertising the idea that a dissabled person has a right to miss treat a guide dog is inflamitory neferious propoganda.
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Secular Sanity Offline
(Sep 4, 2018 12:31 AM)confused2 Wrote: At this point I'd like to thank an unknown person for vandalising my nice new car - it makes it much easier to care not a jot about persons unknown to me.

This wasn't in the article. Must've been you then, right? Good luck with that, C2. You even had empathy for a robot.
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