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Massive ufo filmed over Martigue France in 2014 (Debunked)

#11
Syne Offline
You can't judge speed without knowing distance (which you can't because the video is zoomed-in and there's no reference point), but a strobe always has the same pulse frequency.

"Landing lights are usually of very high intensity, because of the considerable distance that may separate an aircraft from terrain or obstacles. The landing lights of large aircraft can easily be seen by other aircraft over 100 miles away.
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However, the brightness of landing lights makes them useful for increasing the visibility of an aircraft to other pilots, and so pilots are often encouraged to keep their landing lights on while below certain altitudes or in crowded airspace. ...One convention is for commercial aircraft to turn on their landing lights when changing flight levels." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_lights#Overview

That looked like fairly low altitude, and Martigue is a very congested airspace. There's also a huge military-only operations airspace very close. http://notaminfo.com/francemap

But you go right ahead and ignore all reason to buoy your beliefs.
#12
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:You can't judge speed without knowing distance (which you can't because the video is zoomed-in and there's no reference point), but a strobe always has the same pulse frequency.

I can judge speed by knowing size, and I know by the size of that helicopter that it was going a normal speed. Also at time second 56 you can see birds flying by at the bottom of the screen at normal speed. And no..jets don't perform formation light shows unannounced with their landing lights at low altitude over cities. That's just insane. The ufo was hovering for over a minute, and then it took off, veering to the left and banking like a single huge craft would. No jets involved here. Another detail: in that 2008 video there is sound being recorded. Yet we hear no rumble of the jets in the sky. The UFO is totally silent, as indeed most are. Finally, in the 2008 video, note you can see structure between the lights as it starts to bank. This is one massive craft.
#13
Syne Offline
(Jan 23, 2018 08:16 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:You can't judge speed without knowing distance (which you can't because the video is zoomed-in and there's no reference point), but a strobe always has the same pulse frequency.

I can judge speed by knowing size, and I know by the size of that helicopter that it was going a normal speed. Also at time second 56 you can see birds flying by at the bottom of the screen at normal speed. And no..jets don't perform formation light shows unannounced with their landing lights at low altitude over cities. That's just insane. The ufo was hovering for over a minute, and then it took off, veering to the left and banking like a single huge craft would. No jets involved here. One more detail: in that 2008 video there is sound being recorded. Yet we hear no rumble of the jets in the sky. The UFO is totally silent, as indeed most are.

Okay, even though I know you'll take this as a somehow complete vindication of your crack-pottery, I am intellectually honest enough to admit, upon finding a better quality video, that is it full speed. Notice the lack of up-scaled video artifacts, which also obscure the helicopter strobes in the OP vid.

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Ydg530Iqu4Q

You can ignore aviation safety all you like, but as already shown (and you can google tons of info on "landing lights at low altitude"...if you're care at all for intellectual honesty), landing lights at low altitude or congested airspace is far from unheard of.

And you can clearly see the ninth jet pull away from this exact formation as they start to turn.

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During training, which is likely, that close to a large airspace restricted to military operations only, every precaution would likely be taken in such tights formations. There's nothing insane, nor even mildly unexpected, about that.
#15
Syne Offline
The jets are clearly flying toward the camera, as their lights dim as they turn away. Rolleyes
#17
Syne Offline
Let's review just how well you could trust your own perceptions and assumptions here. You know, since you often claim eye-witness reports are infallible.

(Jan 23, 2018 03:36 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: But fighter jets don't sit and hover in the sky like this ufo did. They fly very fast. And fighter jets don't present as bright glowing blobs in the sky.

They were not hovering, and they did present as bright lights.

(Jan 23, 2018 04:32 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: So it's definitely not jets flying towards the camera. And what lights? Their landing lights? Sure..that''s what it is. lol! Have you ever seen a jet flying at night?

It was jets flying toward the camera, and apparently you didn't know that jet landing lights could look like that at night.

(Jan 23, 2018 05:19 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Jets don't turn on their landing lights until they land.

Just an ignorant assumption.

(Jan 23, 2018 06:20 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: And it would be stupid anyway for jets to be doing such maneuvers at night like that over the city. It's just not done. This is a ufo.

Yet it wasn't stupid, it was done, and it wasn't a ufo.

(Jan 23, 2018 08:16 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: And no..jets don't perform formation light shows unannounced with their landing lights at low altitude over cities. That's just insane. The ufo was hovering for over a minute, and then it took off, veering to the left and banking like a single huge craft would. No jets involved here. Another detail: in that 2008 video there is sound being recorded. Yet we hear no rumble of the jets in the sky. The UFO is totally silent, as indeed most are. Finally, in the 2008 video, note you can see structure between the lights as it starts to bank. This is one massive craft.

They do for training purposes, and you don't typically hear jets unless you're behind them.


So we can see that the same perceptions coupled with a host of faulty assumptions can indeed lead a person to think they've witnessed something that actually had not. Cautionary tale.


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