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Whatever Happened To Lyndon LaRouche? (ideo-cult community)

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Whatever Happened To Lyndon LaRouche?
http://www.science20.com/alex_berezow/wh...che-226434

EXCERPT: When I first moved to the Emerald City in 2004, I remember coming across a group of young political activists protesting George W. Bush. Of course, that's normal in a place like Seattle, but what wasn't normal was that this same group of activists didn't like Al Gore. [...] Who were these people? I had to find out. [...] I quickly learned [it] was like entering an alternate universe where up is down and the Pope is Hitler.

They believed that "reductionism" -- the notion that complex phenomena are best understood through a process of reducing them down to simpler parts -- was Satanic. [...] They also didn't like Isaac Newton very much. Where did they get such bizarre beliefs? They got them from the politician they were supporting for president, Lyndon LaRouche. When Mr. LaRouche isn't trying to get elected to political office, he writes essays like, "The Pagan Worship of Isaac Newton."

Now things were getting clearer. This was less a political movement and more of a cult, complete with its own version of science and religion....

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LaRouche Movement
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaRouche_movement

EXCERPT: The LaRouche movement [...] originated in radical leftist student politics of the 1960s. It is often viewed now as an unclassifiable group. [...It...] has included many organizations and companies around the world, which campaign, gather information, and publish books and periodicals. The movement promotes a revival of classical art and a greater commitment to science; advocates the development of major economic infrastructure projects on a global scale; and calls for a reform of the world financial system to encourage investment in the physical economy and suppress financial speculation.

[...] One target of LaRouche's attention has been Henry Kissinger. LaRouche allegedly has called Kissinger a "faggot", a "traitor", a British or Soviet agent and a "Nazi", and has linked him to the murder of Aldo Moro. His followers heckled and disrupted Kissinger's appearances. In 1982, a member of LaRouche's Fusion Energy Foundation, Ellen Kaplan, asked Kissinger at an airport terminal if it were true that he slept with young boys; Kissinger and his wife, Nancy, were on their way to a heart operation. In response, Nancy Kissinger grabbed the woman by the throat. Kaplan pressed charges and the case went to trial. In 1986 Janice Hart held a press conference to say that Kissinger was part of the international "drug mafia". Asked whether Jews were behind drug trafficking Hart replied, "That's totally nonsense. I don't consider Henry Kissinger a Jew. I consider Henry Kissinger a homosexual."

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Lyndon LaRouche
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

EXCERPT: [...] LaRouche founded the U.S. Labor Party in 1973 as the political arm of the NCLC. At first the party was "preaching Marxist revolution" but by 1977 they shifted from left-wing to right-wing politics. A two-part article in The New York Times in 1979 by Howard Blum and Paul L. Montgomery alleged that LaRouche had turned the party (at that point with 1,000 members in 37 offices in North America, and 26 in Europe and Latin America) into an extreme-right, antisemitic organization, despite the presence of Jewish members. LaRouche denied the newspaper's charges, and said he had filed a $100 million libel suit; his press secretary said the articles were intended to "set up a credible climate for an assassination hit."

The Times alleged that members had taken courses in how to use knives and rifles; that a farm in upstate New York had been used for guerrilla training; and that several members had undergone a six-day anti-terrorist training course run by Mitchell WerBell III, an arms dealer and former member of the Office of Strategic Services, who said he had ties to the CIA. Journalists and publications the party regarded as unfriendly were harassed, and it published a list of potential assassins it saw as a threat. LaRouche expected members to devote themselves entirely to the party, and place their savings and possessions at its disposal, as well as take out loans on its behalf. Party officials would decide who each member should live with, and if someone left the movement, his remaining partner was expected to live separately from him. LaRouche would question spouses about their partner's sexual habits, the Times said, and in one case reportedly ordered a member to stop having sex with his wife because it was making him "politically impotent."

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Views of Lyndon LaRouche and the LaRouche movement
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of...e_movement

EXCERPT: [...] Lyndon LaRouche began his political career as a Trotskyist and praised Marxism, He and the National Caucus of Labor Committeesabandoned this view in the 1970s. LaRouche no longer opposes capitalism as an economic system, and his analysis of political events is no longer phrased in terms of class....

[...] LaRouche's philosophy references an old dispute between Plato and Aristotle. Aristotle believed in knowledge through empirical observation and experience. Plato believed in The Forms. According to LaRouche, history has always been a battle between Platonists—rationalists, idealists and utopians who believe in absolute truth and the primacy of ideas—and Aristotelians—relativists who rely on empirical data and sensory perception. Platonists in LaRouche's worldview include figures such as Beethoven, Mozart, Shakespeare, Leonardo da Vinci, and Leibniz. LaRouche states that many of the world's ills are due to the fact that Aristotelianism, as embraced by British philosophers like Locke, Hume, Hobbes, Bentham and represented by "oligarchs", foremost among them wealthy British families, has dominated, leading to a culture that favors the empirical over the metaphysical, embraces moral relativism, and seeks to keep the general population uninformed. LaRouche frames this struggle as an ancient one, and sees himself and his movement in the tradition of the philosopher-kings in Plato's Republic....

[,,.] LaRouche is known for alleging conspiracies by the British. LaRouche has said that the dominant imperialist strategic force acting on the planet today is not the United States, but the "Anglo-Dutch liberal system" of the British Empire, which he asserts is an oligarchic financial consortium like that of medieval Venice, more like a "financial slime-mold" than a nation. According to this theory, London financial circles protect themselves from competition by using techniques of "controlled conflict" first developed in Venice, and LaRouche attributes many wars in recent memory to this alleged activity by the British....

[...] Meštrović says LaRouche follows Vladimir Vernadsky in seeing the human mind as a force transforming the biosphere into a higher form, the noösphere. LaRouche favors a highly industrialized civilization reaching for innovation and interplanetary colonization. The movement says that the theory of man-caused global warming prevents the development of emerging economies. It also says the top level organizations in the command structure of the environmental movement include the World Wildlife Fund, headed by Prince Philip, the Aspen Institute, and the Club of Rome....

[...] The "Greenhouse effect" hoax: a world federalist plot, another book by Maduro, says that the theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is a plot by the British royal family and communists to undermine the U.S....

[...] In 1973, LaRouche wrote an article called "Beyond Psychoanalysis". He theorized that each culture had characteristic flaws that resulted in blocks to effective political organizing. LaRouche and his colleagues conducted studies of different "national ideologies," including German, French, Italian, English, Latin American, Greek, and Swedish. In an article, "The Sexual Impotency of the Puerto Rican Socialist Party", LaRouche criticised Machismo. Regarding the role of women, he adds, "The task of real women's liberation is to generally strengthen women's self-consciousness and their power and opportunities to act upon self-consciousness....

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Yazata Offline
He's apparently still alive, but at 95 he's not as active as he used to be.
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(Oct 23, 2017 03:24 AM)Yazata Wrote: He's apparently still alive, but at 95 he's not as active as he used to be.


I stumbled across some of their "Isaac Newton is a villain and Gottfried Leibniz is a hero" literature a long ago. Weird tangle of a conspiracy they concocted.

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(Oct 25, 2017 06:08 AM)C C Wrote:
(Oct 23, 2017 03:24 AM)Yazata Wrote: He's apparently still alive, but at 95 he's not as active as he used to be.


I stumbled across some of their "Isaac Newton is a villain and Gottfried Leibniz is a hero" literature a long ago. Weird tangle of a conspiracy they concocted.

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after a very short chase down a relatively shallow rabbit hole it appeared to me that there may be a difference between what is reported and what is stated.
out of pure curiosity, what you found, .. was it published by a group that defined its self as being atributable...
OR was it HIS organisation and words directly from him spoken on tape or in writing ?

my guess is you will probably fnd there is no actual link between him and those comments( just a guess)
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(Oct 25, 2017 11:12 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Oct 25, 2017 06:08 AM)C C Wrote:
(Oct 23, 2017 03:24 AM)Yazata Wrote: He's apparently still alive, but at 95 he's not as active as he used to be.

I stumbled across some of their "Isaac Newton is a villain and Gottfried Leibniz is a hero" literature a long ago. Weird tangle of a conspiracy they concocted.

after a very short chase down a relatively shallow rabbit hole it appeared to me that there may be a difference between what is reported and what is stated. out of pure curiosity, what you found, .. was it published by a group that defined its self as being atributable... OR was it HIS organisation and words directly from him spoken on tape or in writing ?


Did "their [...] literature" (not necessarily the recruitment kind) sound like a critical review of such an _X_ in an opinion column of a newspaper? If a Jehovah Witness handed us a copy of The Watchtower (or we oddly found the latter among the magazines of a waiting room), then that publication would somehow not be directly reflective or representative of the organization? Exactly how deep would we have to go into a movement to finally reach aspects of its legit school of thought or M.O.? Does "the real creed" perpetually recede ever further into its substratum in accordance with how much the reader sympathizes with a movement but experiences cognitive dissonance in regard to any suspect conspiracy crankhood or "Trump Tweet" moments?

The Pagan Worship Of Isaac Newton
http://larouchepub.com/lar/2003/3045pagan_isaac.html

[...] Antonio Conti, who played a guiding hand, from Paris, in transforming what had been a relatively obscure dabbler in black magic, Isaac Newton, into a Voltaire-backed celebrity of the Eighteenth-Century British-French "Enlightenment." [...] Euler had been a leading part of the anti-Leibniz cabal during the period of influence of Lessing and Mendelssohn. [...] The precepts of that Newton cult are usually presented, as by Euler, solely as a matter of the indoctrination of professionals in a form of blind utopianism, a form of utopianism which is, without exaggeration, a pathetic form of religious belief. [...] Eighteenth-Century "Enlightenment's" notorious scalawag Voltaire. The personal relationship between Leibniz-haters Euler and Voltaire in Berlin, is typical of the connections among the "Enlightenment" faction of that Century [...] So, lunatic Newton wrote: "hypothesis was not necessary." So, during the 1890s, after he had been driven insane by his persecutors, Georg Cantor repudiated his great achievements of the preceding decade by writing the same lunatic's motto, "hypothesis was not necessary." [...] The foolish person pursues rewards, or merely avoids penalties. The wise person, of which there are admittedly few in our society today, pursues eternal happiness as Leibniz defined it. That pursuit is his passion, the force which moves him, or her, to discover, and to act for mankind [...]


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He's not around any more. He died on February 12, 2019 at the age of 96.
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