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Magical Realist
Sep 22, 2017 12:02 AM
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Quote:Not that every moral choice is absolutely spelled out. And moral absolutism is not moral universalism, which deems things like opinions morally irrelevant. Most Christians are moral universalists more than moral absolutists. After all, many Christians believe in self-defense even though murder is immoral.
"Moral absolutism may be understood in a strictly secular context, as in many forms of deontological moral rationalism. However, many religions have morally absolutist positions as well, regarding their system of morality as deriving from divine commands. Therefore, they regard such a moral system as absolute, (usually) perfect, and unchangeable."--- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_absolutism
(Sep 21, 2017 11:55 PM)Syne Wrote: [quote='Magical Realist' pid='13918' dateline='1506031245']
What is right always depends on the context, the situation, and the person or persons involved. What is right for one person may not be right for another. Quote:Yeah, that's called moral relativism.
Yeah, that's what philosophers call it. What it IS is the everyday morality of living one's life. Even you decide what is morally right for you, either as some law or absolute that holds for everybody regardless of the situation.
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Sep 22, 2017 01:59 AM
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(Sep 22, 2017 12:02 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:Not that every moral choice is absolutely spelled out. And moral absolutism is not moral universalism, which deems things like opinions morally irrelevant. Most Christians are moral universalists more than moral absolutists. After all, many Christians believe in self-defense even though murder is immoral.
"Moral absolutism may be understood in a strictly secular context, as in many forms of deontological moral rationalism. However, many religions have morally absolutist positions as well, regarding their system of morality as deriving from divine commands. Therefore, they regard such a moral system as absolute, (usually) perfect, and unchangeable."---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_absolutism Yeah, divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory that holds that commands from god are moral. Are you naive enough to assume god issued commands on even a small fraction of what any person might confront regularly? O_o
Are you even aware of the significance of conscience in Christianity?
Quote: (Sep 21, 2017 11:55 PM)Syne Wrote: (Sep 21, 2017 11:00 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: What is right always depends on the context, the situation, and the person or persons involved. What is right for one person may not be right for another.
Yeah, that's called moral relativism.
Yeah, that's what philosophers call it. What it IS is the everyday morality of living one's life. Even you decide what is morally right for you, either as some law or absolute that holds for everybody regardless of the situation.
Now you're just conflating normative and descriptive morality.
It is trivially descriptive to say I decide what is morally right for me. That tells us nothing about prescriptive morality.
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Sep 22, 2017 02:04 AM
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Quote:Yeah, divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory that holds that commands from god are moral.
It's also moral absolutism, as my Wikipedia article just confirmed.
Quote:Now you're just conflating normative and descriptive morality. Rolleyes
It is trivially descriptive to say I decide what is morally right for me. That tells us nothing about prescriptive morality.
I'm just describing the facts of everyday life. I'm not interested in the semantics of philosophical descriptors.
Let's be honest. One the main reasons people like to adopt a moral absolutism is that it justifies them condemning and judging others. It's what absolutists get off on---denigrating and hating others because they aren't abiding by their chosen precious absolute rules.
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Sep 22, 2017 02:16 AM
(Sep 22, 2017 02:04 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:Yeah, divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory that holds that commands from god are moral.
It's also moral absolutism, as my Wikipedia article just confirmed. Unsurprisingly, you ignored the two simple questions that illustrate the gaping holes in your sad argument:
Quote:Are you naive enough to assume god issued commands on even a small fraction of what any person might confront regularly? O_o
Are you even aware of the significance of conscience in Christianity?
I guess I'll just have to assume the answers would be embarrassing.
Quote:Quote:Now you're just conflating normative and descriptive morality. Rolleyes
It is trivially descriptive to say I decide what is morally right for me. That tells us nothing about prescriptive morality.
I'm just describing the facts of everyday life. I'm not interested in the semantics of philosophical descriptors.
Yeah, "describing" descriptive morality.
Apparently you're not even interested in making cogent arguments.
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