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[Zinjanthropos]

I'm with Carol on this one......very little evidence of casual. I take casual chatter to mean like talking around the summer camp bonfire, no need for a glossary of scientific terms or a dictionary. Just shooting the shit and having some fun. More emphasis on relax and being frank, state your case and move on. Right now I'm in that state of mind where I really don't give a damn what you say about my posts/threads so I know I've reached Scivillage Nirvana.

Omm, jai guru deva. Nothing's gonna change my world, nothing's gonna change my world.

[Secular Sanity]

Apparently, I’m an emotional trigger for some and a detractor for others. 

Even if I may disagree with other people’s ideas, beliefs, and opinions from time to time, I’m still giving them attention, and that is sign of respect.

I may be a little different but I’m not going to alter my style.  I’m not really here to seek validation or compare myself with others.  I’m here because I want to exchange knowledge in a casual format.  Everyone has something to offer.  So, I’m not really down with excluding people either. Homogeneity kills forums. 

Syne and I have been going at it for years, and we're both rude to each other, but I can always count on him.  Besides, you learn more from the person who disagrees with you.  He’s better than he used to be, not his behavior, but his research.  It’s rare, but when he’s able to prove I’m wrong, I like it.  I think to myself  "God Damn it, you little shit. Oh, well, good for you."  And you know what?  That’s when my attitude shifts.

I just noticed today that Mrs. Carol added me to her ignore list. 

PS Secular Sanity is on my ignore list because this person triggers my emotions canceling out any intellect interest that is possible.

If you don’t want a response from me, you don’t have to put me on your ignore list, just let me know, Zinman.

[Zinjanthropos]

If you don’t want a response from me, you don’t have to put me on your ignore list, just let me know, Zinman.

WTF? Just saw me at the end there.

I haven't been here that long but I've gotten used to some of the bantering. Personally when you and Syne get into a spat, real, staged or otherwise, I don't read them. So really the only thing that bugs me about them is when I say, "Oh shit, there they go again, another filibuster cat fight", realizing I've just wasted time checking it out. Hey, if that's your thing then be my guest. I'll let you know that I have never ever used an ignore button on any forum. People want to state their case then go ahead. However some of you old timers are too predictable. The Point Counterpoint segment of 60 Minutes only took a few minutes, not several days/weeks/months. 

My point is strictly regarding the word 'casual'. However I'm flexible and if quarrelling with Syne is your version of casual than so be it. Perhaps  others relax by hurling Ad Homs every time someone questions what they've written. Nobody does that here, ya think? Casual implies that maybe, just maybe, not everyone is a bonafide scientist, pseudo scientist or armchair scientist. Some of us are just regular schmucks who wouldn't normally get a chance or stand a chance on a genuine science top heavy forum. Very difficult to be casual on such a board but that's to be expected, IMHO. 

Of course we all have options, ignore, argue, go to war, surrender, quit and move on being a few. If it ain't meant to be casual then for Christ Sakes erase that word from the homepage. I'm a survivor, a veteran. I can't be insulted, badgered, cajoled, embarrassed, intimidated....and a few more. I play the game, it's fun and entertaining but occasionally I'm required to post something like this. Folks, we are anonymous faceless disembodied key punchers who by some miracle could be living right next to each other. We'll never know and that's the beauty of it.

[Secular Sanity]

Wow!  That was little dramatic.

I'm with Carol on this one......very little evidence of casual. I take casual chatter to mean like talking around the summer camp bonfire, no need for a glossary of scientific terms or a dictionary. Just shooting the shit and having some fun.

If it ain't meant to be casual then for Christ Sakes erase that word from the homepage.

This forum seems pretty casual to me.  I don’t use big words.  So, you must be referring to C C.  I like C C just the way she is.  I would never want her to dumb herself down on my account.  I love her style.  She’s smart and creative.  Her vocabulary is expansive but I don’t mind learning a new word here and there.  She also tosses in a few characters from the past that I may not be aware of and I appreciate it.  

Folks, we are anonymous faceless disembodied key punchers who by some miracle could be living right next to each other.

Yikes! That’s a scary thought.

However I'm flexible and if quarrelling with Syne is your version of casual than so be it.

I'm a survivor, a veteran. I can't be insulted, badgered, cajoled, embarrassed, intimidated....and a few more.

Good to know. Thanks!

Nite, Zinman.

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If you don’t want a response from me, you don’t have to put me on your ignore list, just let me know, Zinman.

WTF? Just saw me at the end there.

My point is strictly regarding the word 'casual'.

Where did she mention anything about 'casual' conversation?  She’s just preaching about social niceties.

[Zinjanthropos]

Maybe I should take this stuff more seriously. Nah!

Casual is my two cents worth of input. Cheap. My only bugaboo about the forum. CC has a vocabulary to envious of for sure. She tries her damnest to get things started and who can't appreciate that? Her threads are very organized with several quotations. Even her rebuttals or answers contain quotes. Must take a lot of time to do both. Not my idea of casual banter but I think I know where she's coming from, get people involved.

For me casual means off the cuff. Not taking time to organize things nice and tidy but kudos to her for what she does to encourage participation. It's her casual style, not gonna change it.
CC, you're great. I'm going to slip back into my lazyboy and let the chips fall.

[Carol]

Looks like the subject got changed. Oh well, I love talking about gracious living. Even when we are being causal it is more pleasant when the company is pleasant, sort of like good music as opposed to an irritating siren. It is my desire to be in the garden with Epicurus where the focus is on beauty, nature, and pleasure. It is fine to be there with Socrates who loved nothing better than a good argument, but a good argument means good reasoning, not low insults. Basing arguments on insults rather than reason is like a cheap comedy where the comedian has nothing clever to say so s/he cusses.

Being abusive is ugly and we don't have to be rich to be refined and enjoy a gracious life. To live gracefully is safe, relaxing and brings out the best in us and I associate that with being intelligent. However, I am sure Greek drama threw in a few good jabs, as did Shakespear. That is okay when it is done well. Perhaps that is what some people aspire to, but they kind of miss the boat, like the comedian who isn't clever so s/he cusses.

There, I gave a couple of examples of the jab having some value when it is done well.

[Secular Sanity]

Casual conversation,eh?   You know, this is starting to sound a lot like Samuel Beckett’s Waiting for Godot.

I'm going to slip back into my lazyboy and let the chips fall.

Hmm…beauty, nature, and pleasure.  Missy Manners is offering up some pleasant distractions.  You might get lucky, Zinman.  Those chips might fall in your lap.  

(If I'm really on her ignore list, she won't see this.  No harm, no foul.)  

Speaking of 'Lucky,' you seem to have a casual interest in philosophy. What's your take on this Olly guy’s interpretation? Anyone?  

"Interestingly, there is one character in the play, who I think maybe does accept the absurd.  He’s charged with carrying a heavy burden, but when offered comfort and distraction willing goes back to that burden and picks it up again.  It’s Lucky.  The so-called slave.  I think that at this particular stage of my artistic career, and I resume the right to change my mind later, but I think that you could read Lucky as being Camus' model of the absurdist hero.  Somebody that knows that their life is a pointless, horrible chore, but who gets on with it anyway. And when Lucky finally speaks to Vladimir, Estragon, and Pozzo, they and the audience, are incapable of understanding a word he’s saying. You see what I mean?  Waiting for Godot is just the staged version of the Myth of Sisyphus.  It’s the work of philosophy presented as a play."

[Zinjanthropos]

I don't need luck. Pressing your luck is like asking me to philosophize. Vlad has a great voice doesn't he?

I'm in my lazyboy and as I turn my head left towards the window I see the spectacle of what appears to be a new moon crescent hanging low in the sky casting an amazing reflection of dazzling white upon the still lake water. All this is visible from where I sit, a rare moment indeed but devastatingly beautiful. Screw Godot, can't be better than this.

[Secular Sanity]

[Carol]

I wrote a poem at Sciforums once titled "The Meaning Makers". When I was banned, I created a new username.  I was surprised that it was still available.  It was Godot.

That’s what forums remind me of, the meaning makers, and the play.  

Time is a funny thing.  We kill it, pass it, wish it to end, and then wish for more, but all of us want to know how to spend it.  So, begins our search for meaning.  I’m certainly not here to concoct a one size fits all plan.  That’s impossible, and like in the play, the banter, insults, cursing, and the exchange of the hats, it’s all just a distraction.  I just don’t like fucktards like Mrs. Carol blowing her fairy dust in my direction, that’s all.  

Okay.  You’re happy. I’m happy. We’re happy.  

"Well, what do we now? Now that we’re happy?"  

Nite

From time to time I check what you have say, and it is a shame someone as capable as you does not appreciate the classics and the importance of being pleasant.