Director Robert Eggers' NYT essay..

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I love Robert Eggers' films. Having seen the A24 films "The Witch" and "The Lighthouse", he has an uncanny knack for evoking evil and the demonic with every shot. I look forward to his next work "Nosferatu" coming out this Christmas. Here's his recent essay in the NYT titled "Plumbing The Depths Of Darkness, and Finding Liberation":

"This essay is part of a series called The Big Ideas, in which writers respond to a single question: What do we fear? You can read more by visiting The Big Ideas series page.

'It rains softly. The massive, ancient trees of the forest loom over me. I walk forward in the dim twilight. I can barely see. My eyes mistake every shadow or faint glimmer of dusky light.

I hear the wind moaning through the pine boughs above, causing the thick trunks to sway and groan, but it is unnaturally still near the forest floor. The air is thick. It smells of resin and moss. It is increasingly difficult to walk through the dense, pungent air. But I must walk on. I am compelled to walk on.

I am terrified. My clothes are saturated with the rank humidity, my sweat, everything that would slow my step over the damp autumnal leaves reddened by the rainfall and the incoming night. Tall ferns rub against my calves but seem to slither as if alive. My heart is racing. My head is pounding.


The door is slightly open. It reveals nothing but complete darkness within. I know instantly it is the dwelling of a witch. A child-killing witch. A demonic ogress. My heart sinks. My breath accelerates.

I am drawn to it as I have never been drawn to anything before.

I want to scream, but I cannot. All I can do is walk closer. Closer. Closer still to the open door of the hovel. Shuddering with every step, I approach the threshold. The hovel smells of the rot and decay of earth. It smells of suffocating death.

I enter. It is utterly dark, but I walk on. As my eyes adjust to the darkness, I see something ever so faintly. And I know. I know who it is. I know what it is. I see the back of an old woman at the far end of the hovel. She is impossibly still. Her spine is bent and twisted. Over her shoulder, I see her balding, blistered head with its few strands of coarse, gray hair.

All the time I walk closer. Closer. Closer.

I feel I am about to expire from fear. I am now a few paces from her. The pressure of my pounding heart is so extreme, so painful, I feel it will burst. Her stench is maddening. I put my hand on her shoulder. Slowly, slowly she turns toward me. I can bear it no more. I can taste my blood. As I am about to see her face ….

I wake up.

I had this same dream a few times a year from the age of 6 or 7 until I was 31. Recreating these same images, more or less, in my first feature film “The Witch” somehow exorcised this dream. I had a happy childhood. But I had many fears. Normal, but perhaps heightened.

As a filmmaker, as a creator of horror films, I get to take control of my fears — to face them and share them. Like many people in creative fields, I often turn to my own dreams and nightmares for inspiration. Of course, these dreams reflect ourselves, and it is my unoriginal notion that what we are most afraid of is the darkness within us. This is where the most successful tales of horror come from. Edgar Allan Poe’s tales of obsession. The depth of Mary Shelley. Arthur Machen’s stories of euphoric madness. Stanley Kubrick’s adaptation of “The Shining.” The cinema of Ingmar Bergman and David Lynch. It is when the darkness takes over, when it is absolute and inescapable, that it is the most terrifying.

My interest in the macabre is often one of liberation. It is liberating to control my fears by recreating them cinematically. It is liberating to feel close enough to the darkness of death to fear it less. For my own personal interest and in researching my films, I have read extensively in different disciplines of the occult. For my so-called art, I have plunged deep into the darkness.

In the 1930s, the psychiatrist Carl Jung wrote of a notable artist who “suffers the underworld fate — the man in him who does not turn toward the day-world, but is fatefully drawn into the dark; who follows not the accepted ideals of goodness and beauty, but the demoniacal attraction of ugliness and evil.” Jung continued: “When such a fate befalls a man who belongs to the neurotic, he usually encounters the unconscious in the form of the ‘Dark One.’ ”

This is truly frightening. Where does the exorcism of the fear end and the possession by darkness begin? That notable artist was, by the way, Picasso, whose work seems on the face of it far away from the work of his countryman Goya, whose “Los Caprichos” and Black Paintings seem to have been conjured from the depths of hell. Yet Picasso’s abstract grotesqueries were enough for Jung to see one who passed “through the perils of Hades.”

The witch of my nightmare was terrifying because she was inescapable. As much as I was frightened of her, I was even more drawn to her — even though I knew that meeting her meant my death, or worse. Fear, whether we explore it or shun it is, like my witch, inescapable. She was, somehow, within me.

Though I have rid myself of this witch, I find the nature of fear is elusive. In earlier periods witches, vampires and werewolves could be the external scapegoats to our inner fears. But today: a stabbing on a subway platform. The abduction of a child. The atrocities of war. These daily monstrosities are also inescapable. These evils haunt us. They force us to ask ourselves, how are we as humans capable of such darkness?

It must be the humble horror author’s duty to probe this malevolence in our nature. If an audience partakes in a story that endeavors to articulate some of life’s inner and outer demons, can we meet them face to face and pass though the perils of Hades together? Can we do this and come out unscathed, and even more human?' "

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/speci...-fear.html
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(Sep 30, 2024 08:32 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: I love Robert Eggers' films. Having seen the A24 films "The Witch" and "The Lighthouse", he has an uncanny knack for evoking evil and the demonic with every shot. I look forward to his next work "Nosferatu" coming out this Christmas. Here's his recent essay in the NYT titled "Plumbing The Depths Of Darkness, and Finding Liberation":

[...] I had this same dream a few times a year from the age of 6 or 7 until I was 31. Recreating these same images, more or less, in my first feature film “The Witch” somehow exorcised this dream. I had a happy childhood. But I had many fears. Normal, but perhaps heightened. As a filmmaker, as a creator of horror films, I get to take control of my fears — to face them and share them.

[...] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/speci...-fear.html

For me, horror films don't work in terms of providing a feeling of being scared. Because over the years they have actually generated immunity against unearthly terrors, abominations, and the bizarre stuff featured on the screen. Of course, that's what Eggers himself seems to be suggesting... Making those movies is therapy for him.

But that's just one reason in a mixture of several for whatever it is "enticing" about horror films (and that's assuming that there even is such "allurement", in the course of setting side the brute fact of someone else or others almost always having been responsible for me watching one in the deep past).

Horror -- or at the least the supernatural rather than the "Psycho" kind -- was the original simulated-reality scenario. Where there is a "prior-in-rank" level that can intrude upon and disrupt the rules of this one. Statistical probability and militant skepticism never completely exorcise the possibility from the mind's backroom, especially when lots of crazy coincidences converge without mercy.

And the horror genre bursts the delusion of "self-importance" differently than, say, science fiction or something that hits you with awe of the universe's magnitude. I mean, even a nasty exotic creature just tormenting or killing people right and left -- shattering the realm of their ordinary lives -- does the job. The fragility of human existence exposed after one of the insulating props has been kicked aside.

Then there's the choice of locations, moody atmosphere, and the historic settings of some movies (and horror literature). It literally creates lifestyles -- like Goth subculture or celebrities living in (designed) haunted houses. The attraction that art has to raw alienness, strangeness, otherness, abnormality, the transcendent, etc. Using "pretend" to escape the suffocating, mundane conformity cage of the 1950s (that has a version reiterating through all decades).
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As a long time connoisseur of horror I too have become desensitized by various horror themes over the years. The demon possession trope of the 70's. The slashers/teen victims of the 80's. The serial killers of the 90's. And the zombies of the 2000's. That's why I'm always looking for more original themes of horror that push the boundaries of imagination and suggest whole new sources for our sense of the uncanny and disturbing.

Thankfully a few standout films along the way have met that standard for me. "Phantasm" was one of the first to open me up to a new kind of nightmarish creepiness. "Hellraiser" was a crazy hoot with its S&M interdimensionals. "Jacob's Ladder" blew me away, being a wholly original treatment of the demonic/madness theme. "Exorcist III" from the early 90's was so uniquely horrifying to me that it made me sick. Cronenburg certainly shocked me at a visceral level with "The Fly" and "Naked Lunch". The genius of David Lynch has never ceased to astonish me. The little indie flick "The Babadook" was surprisingly terrifying, tapping into the childhood bedtime fear of the boogyman. There was a series on Syfy channel for awhile that really impressed me called "Channel Zero" which featured various miniseries introducing wholly new versions of the "monsters/others" subject. More recently Jonathan Glazer's "Under The Skin" really unnerved me with its outright strangeness and xenoerotic twistedness. And "Vivarium" was practically revelatory for me in what it simply left undefined.

So I remain optimistic in that we seem to be getting more and more new and daring directors these days who are experimenting with novel forms of the genre. Or at least fresh renditions of the old classic themes. And Eggers certainly seems to be a promising one of those.
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(Sep 30, 2024 10:12 PM)C C Wrote: Horror... was the original simulated-reality scenario. Where there is a "prior-in-rank" level that can intrude upon and disrupt the rules of this one.

That reminds me of what has to have been Robert Heinlein's strangest story, 'The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag', a metaphysical novella written way back in 1942. It creeped me out when I first read it, and I continue to be creeped out by it today.

Jonathan Hoag is a wealthy epicure, a lover of fine art, fine food and fine living. His problem is that he has no idea who he works for, the location where he works or what he does. He has memories of leaving for work in the morning, then nothing until his memories resume when he returns home in the evening. What really scares him is that he has what he fears is blood on his hands when he returns.

So he hires a husband-wife team of private investigators to follow him to work.

The PI's are the protagonists of the story and what they discover about Jonathan Hoag gets stranger and stranger. Hoag's memories of his own past turn out to be false. The address where he works doesn't exist... except the investigators visit it themselves where they encounter weird entities that use mirrors as doorways...

The reveals at the end are extraordinary, revealing the story to be religious fiction of a very metaphysical non-Abrahamic kind. It's about beings in "higher" realities creating entire universes as works of art, what happens when a very promising art student screws up one of his early attempts and fails to destroy the botched work but instead paints over it, so to speak, so that some very angry and bitter beings are hidden behind everything in this reality, struggling to get out and make our reality theirs once again.

Jonathan Hoag turns out to be an art critic from a higher plane of being, incarnated in a human avatar temporarily with no memories of his origin or role, so that he can experience this art work, considered potentially a work of genius in the higher plane, as if he were one of us. But what he discovers (paragraph above) is so bad that his memory of who/what he is suddenly returns and he decides this work of art (our reality) must be destroyed and repainted/recreated anew.

I think MR would love this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unplea...athan_Hoag
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