Israel-Gaza War (and Iranian Distractions)

[Syne]

The vast majority of Gazans are effectively Hamas. They followed into Israel and cheered on the terrorists, they've housed hostages taken by Hamas, and every survey show that vast majority support the attack on Israel.

[stryder]

The vast majority of Gazans are effectively Hamas. They followed into Israel and cheered on the terrorists, they've housed hostages taken by Hamas, and every survey show that vast majority support the attack on Israel.

That rhetoric is dangerous because it's not inherently true.

The problem with any conflict or war action is that people are directly effect by losses, death, damage or just panick which in turn can cause emotions to act out and emphasise that they are happy or in a particular good situation, it doesn't necessarily mean that venting would lead to something worse if of course a modicum of de-escalation was used.

Part of the problem too is hardliners on either side love the fact that people reach that emotional climax because it's a tipping point for change, so they'll use it when ever they can.

Further to that, if an armed gang enters your home and tells you to obey or you'll suffer their wrath in form of harm to your family you'll mind find your complacent, even if it means allowing terrorists to hold people in your household.

[Yazata]

Tonight the Israelis performed another of their highly targeted assassination strikes. But this one was against an apartment in the city of Tripoli, in northern Lebanon (Lebanon's second largest city). Tripoli's Muslims are largely Sunni I believe, and Shi'ite Hezbollah isn't particularly active in Tripoli. Israel hasn't attacked Tripoli in months.

The target was Saeed Atallah Ali, the top commander of Hamas' military wing, the Al Qassam brigades. Notably he wasn't in Gaza, fighting alongside what's left of his men. Instead he seems to have escaped Gaza into Egypt through one of the tunnels, and was living comfortably in Lebanon. (Even Hitler refused to abandon his bunker and escape.)

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The Saudi al Hadath news channel is reporting that it is confirmed that newly appointed Hezbollah leader Hashem Safieddin was indeed killed in yesterday's Israeli attack on his bunker in the southern Beirut suburbs.

[Syne]

The vast majority of Gazans are effectively Hamas. They followed into Israel and cheered on the terrorists, they've housed hostages taken by Hamas, and every survey show that vast majority support the attack on Israel.

That rhetoric is dangerous because it's not inherently true. 

The problem with any conflict or war action is that people are directly effect by losses, death, damage or just panick which in turn can cause emotions to act out and emphasise that they are happy or in a particular good situation, it doesn't necessarily mean that venting would lead to something worse if of course a modicum of de-escalation was used. 

Part of the problem too is hardliners on either side love the fact that people reach that emotional climax because it's a tipping point for change, so they'll use it when ever they can.

Further to that, if an armed gang enters your home and tells you to obey or you'll suffer their wrath in form of harm to your family you'll mind find your complacent, even if it means allowing terrorists to hold people in your household.

Sure, just keep apologizing for terrorists.

So you assume that all the surveys are done with Hamas right there to threaten them? Moronic.

[stryder]

The vast majority of Gazans are effectively Hamas. They followed into Israel and cheered on the terrorists, they've housed hostages taken by Hamas, and every survey show that vast majority support the attack on Israel.

That rhetoric is dangerous because it's not inherently true. 

The problem with any conflict or war action is that people are directly effect by losses, death, damage or just panick which in turn can cause emotions to act out and emphasise that they are happy or in a particular good situation, it doesn't necessarily mean that venting would lead to something worse if of course a modicum of de-escalation was used. 

Part of the problem too is hardliners on either side love the fact that people reach that emotional climax because it's a tipping point for change, so they'll use it when ever they can.

Further to that, if an armed gang enters your home and tells you to obey or you'll suffer their wrath in form of harm to your family you'll mind find your complacent, even if it means allowing terrorists to hold people in your household.

Sure, just keep apologizing for terrorists.

So you assume that all the surveys are done with Hamas right there to threaten them? Moronic.

I'm not apologising for Terrorists, they are real. I'm merely pointing out that you can't tar everyone with the same brush.

[Syne]

Sure, just keep apologizing for terrorists.

So you assume that all the surveys are done with Hamas right there to threaten them? Moronic.

I'm not apologising for Terrorists, they are real. I'm merely pointing out that you can't tar everyone with the same brush.

When a vast majority says they support Oct 7th in surveys, you're not tarring everyone. When people tell you who they are, believe them.

If you're claiming all these surveys were done under threat of Hamas, you are either making excuses for the people who said they support Hamas or you're contriving a far fetched conspiracy theory. Either one seems to minimize the evil of terrorists and their overt supporters.

People often seem to make the mistake of thinking that all human cultures are more similar than they are different, perhaps because so much of the West is. But many cultures do not value life, so trying to cast them in terms of your own culture is ignorant, dismissive, and misguided.

[Yazata]

Indications are growing that Iranian general Esmail Qaani, the commander of the IRGC's Quds force (their foreign special operations branch tasked with supporting Iran's many proxies) was in Beirut following the death of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah to ensure the continuity of Hezbollah leadership following the death of so many of their top officers. And he appears to have been in the bunker along with newly appointed Hezbollah leader Hashem Safieddine when the Israelis destroyed it.

Nothing has been heard from either of them since that air strike. And word is that search and rescue have been unable to dig out whatever remains of the bunker due to ongoing Israeli air strikes in the area. So the deaths of both Safieddine and Qaani are still unconfirmed but presumed.

A twofer

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[Yazata]

For whatever it's worth, Iran's Tasnim news agency (which belongs to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps) has announced that all commercial flights from all airports in Iran are canceled from 9 PM tonight local time, to 6 AM tomorrow, local.

They appear to be clearing their skies for something...

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Lebanon has just canceled commercial air traffic in Lebanon during the same hours.

[Syne]

A twofer

We can only hope so.