Elon Musk says SpaceX can’t afford to continue to pay for Starlink in Ukraine

#1
C C Offline
https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/14/musk-...expensive/

EXCERPTS: [...] SpaceX told the Pentagon in a September 8 letter that the program would cost $400 million through the next 12 months, requesting the Department of Defense pick up the tab as well as cover ongoing maintenance costs, according to documents obtained by CNN.

“SpaceX is not asking to recoup past expenses, but also cannot fund the existing system indefinitely *and* send several thousand more terminals that have data usage up to 100X greater than typical households. This is unreasonable,” Musk said in a tweet early Friday morning, responding to the CNN report.

[...] The communications struggles have made it more difficult for Ukrainian forces to advance, with one anonymous source telling the outlet that “Starlink is the main way units on the battlefield have to communicate.”

[...] SpaceX has thus far donated 20,000 Starlink units to Ukraine, according to CNN, which Musk claimed “has cost SpaceX $80M & will exceed $100M by end of year.”

[...] “Let’s be honest,” said Podolyak on Twitter. “Like it or not, [Elon Musk] helped us survive the most critical moments of the war. Business has the right to its own strategies. [Ukraine] will find a solution to keep [Starlink] working. We expect that the company will provide stable connection till the end of negotiations” (MORE - missing details)
Reply
#2
stryder Offline
20,000 units at $100* a month each equals $2,000,000 per month, so one year would equal $24 mil. That would leave a shortfall of $56 mil which would imply that each initial unit cost is being retailed at $2,800. In the US each unit is being retailed at $599.

That would imply that $2,201 is the cost to transport per base unit from the US to the Ukraine...

I guess Twitter cost more than it's worth.

Further to that admittedly his initial involvement started the ball rolling for China to consider methods of how to hit such networks (both through hacking and physical attacks)

* monthly price has RRP less
Reply
#3
RainbowUnicorn Offline
if the usa pay for the user charge subscriptions they will get it tax free
they can put it into lend lease

but i would want to be sure that star link will continue to operate in ukraine before handing off millions to the richest man in the world

split between the 5 richest men in the world it is pocket change for them
Reply
#4
Yazata Offline
I believe that part of the cost to SpaceX of the Ukrainian Starlinks is that the Russians are continuously trying to jam, intercept or hack them, with increasing success. SpaceX has been successful (pretty much) in battling that, but it's consuming more and more of the company's resources.

SpaceX has no obligation to provide Ukraine with secure, unjammable satellite communications at its own expense. It's been doing so largely from a sincere desire to help when the Ukrainian government asked them to. But given recent events, maybe it's time for someone else to bear the burden. (The US government can certainly afford to pay for it.)
Reply
#5
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Oct 15, 2022 06:39 AM)Yazata Wrote: I believe that part of the cost to SpaceX of the Ukrainian Starlinks is that the Russians are continuously trying to jam, intercept or hack them, with increasing success. SpaceX has been successful (pretty much) in battling that, but it's consuming more and more of the company's resources.

SpaceX has no obligation to provide Ukraine with secure, unjammable satellite communications at its own expense. It's been doing so largely from a sincere desire to help when the Ukrainian government asked them to. But given recent events, maybe it's time for someone else to bear the burden. (The US government can certainly afford to pay for it.)

usa could go 50/50 with the EU
Reply
#6
stryder Offline
(Oct 15, 2022 08:43 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Oct 15, 2022 06:39 AM)Yazata Wrote: I believe that part of the cost to SpaceX of the Ukrainian Starlinks is that the Russians are continuously trying to jam, intercept or hack them, with increasing success. SpaceX has been successful (pretty much) in battling that, but it's consuming more and more of the company's resources.

SpaceX has no obligation to provide Ukraine with secure, unjammable satellite communications at its own expense. It's been doing so largely from a sincere desire to help when the Ukrainian government asked them to. But given recent events, maybe it's time for someone else to bear the burden. (The US government can certainly afford to pay for it.)

usa could go 50/50 with the EU

Considering that it would be a monopoly just to pay Starlinks fee, it would more likely mean that Europe would rather use its own network over Musks if its asked to pay.
Reply
#7
Magical Realist Online
"Elon Musk said in a tweet Saturday that his company SpaceX would continue to fund Starlink satellite internet terminals for the Ukrainian government as it battles invading Russian forces.

“The hell with it,” the billionaire tweeted, “even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we’ll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free.”

It was not immediately clear whether Musk, who is also the CEO of Tesla
, was being sarcastic. In response to a tweet about the move, Musk said, “we should still do good deeds.” Responding to another tweet saying that Musk had already paid taxes that are funding Ukraine’s defense, he said, “Fate loves irony.”"

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/15/elon-mus...-free.html
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Is Elon Musk's "Starlink" doomed to only modest success? (satellite community) C C 23 299 Jan 31, 2023 08:12 AM
Last Post: Yazata
  Elon Musk & Twitter thread (updates) -- free speech and information control unrest C C 41 502 Jan 31, 2023 07:31 AM
Last Post: Yazata
  Why "Racetrack" UFOs are mostly Starlink flares (satellite community) C C 1 67 Oct 24, 2022 12:06 PM
Last Post: Kornee
  Despite Affordable Care Act, 112 million Americans struggle to afford healthcare C C 0 4 Mar 31, 2022 07:30 PM
Last Post: C C
  Why haven't Russia's cyberattacks been more devastating? (Ukraine community) C C 1 28 Mar 23, 2022 05:43 PM
Last Post: stryder
  Starlink satellites still fueling UAP & UFO sightings (night sky community) C C 0 24 May 10, 2021 10:20 PM
Last Post: C C
  People in China absolutely love Elon Musk + NASA is worried about space pirates C C 0 106 Mar 12, 2021 08:45 PM
Last Post: C C
  Biden/Dems to do UK-US trade deal after all? + UK targets foreign aid to pay pandemic C C 0 78 Nov 17, 2020 08:52 PM
Last Post: C C
  Elon Musk claims he’s deleting his Twitter account (online community) C C 4 330 Jun 19, 2019 02:25 AM
Last Post: RainbowUnicorn
  NASA on Elon Musk: ‘That was not appropriate behavior’ (space contractors community) C C 1 400 Dec 1, 2018 07:26 PM
Last Post: Magical Realist



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)