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Russian Ukraine Invasion

Yazata Offline
Here's one of the better articles that I've read about the logistics problems of the current Ukraine and Gaza wars.

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The artillery shell shortage of late 1914 sounds like obscure logistical history but there's a reason great generals master logistics...

In Britain the munition shortage lead to an internal political clash historians call The Shell Crisis of 1915. As historian Hew Strachan writes: "In 1914, quick-firing field artillery could fire more shells than domestic industries, geared to peacetime consumption levels, could supply. Armies, although recognizing the dangers, had underestimated them. By late autumn (1914) they were having to limit the number of shells each gun was permitted to fire each day. Industry's conversion to wartime production would not be complete until 1916, and in 1915 the shells crisis had political consequences for most belligerents."...

The NATO Shell Crisis of 2022-2024 began with necessary action followed by good intentions. Ukraine needed support of all types, but the first month of combat told Kiev it needed 155-millimeter artillery pieces and rounds. 155 mm is the NATO standard tube artillery piece. NATO and EU defense officials began "cascading" weapons and rounds from allied reserves and stockpiles — robbing Peter to supply Paul...

As for good intentions, in March the European Defense Agency promised to supply Ukraine with one million rounds of artillery ammunition by March 2024. As of mid-November, only 300,000 rounds have been delivered...

Why are stockpiles running out? In 1914 none of the belligerents got the war they expected. Ammunition expenditure greatly exceeded estimates. In 2022 Russia's blitz invasion failed; 20 months later the war continues. Russia didn't get the war it expected. Nor did the U.S. ...

In a Nov. 16 press conference Zelenskyy told reporters "warehouses are empty" in nations that supply Ukraine with munitions. And since the Israel-Hamas War ignited supplies have "really slowed down."


https://www.creators.com/read/austin-bay...ar-efforts
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Quote: In a Nov. 16 press conference Zelenskyy told reporters "warehouses are empty" in nations that supply Ukraine with munitions. And since the Israel-Hamas War ignited supplies have "really slowed down.".

Ruse? Trying to draw over confident Russians within range? Strange comment to make when enemy listening.
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Yazata Offline
(Nov 30, 2023 06:56 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote: In a Nov. 16 press conference Zelenskyy told reporters "warehouses are empty" in nations that supply Ukraine with munitions. And since the Israel-Hamas War ignited supplies have "really slowed down.".

Ruse? Trying to draw over confident Russians within range? Strange comment to make when enemy listening.

Russia probably already knows, since I'm sure that their intelligence tracks those things.

And Russia is experiencing similar problems. They might be in a somewhat better situation since it's Russian practice to never scrap military equipment. They just put older obsolescent gear into storage. When the Cold War ended and the Soviet Union broke up, they placed huge amounts of 1980's vintage military arms and ammunition into storage. I expect that includes millions of rounds of artillery ammunition. Word is that they have been breaking lots of it out of forgotten warehouses and sending it to the Ukraine front.

My guess is that Zelensky was trying to exert some pressure on the West: "Hey guys! We need some help here!"
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