Russian Ukraine Invasion (renamed from: Russia expected to invade Ukraine next week)

**Kornee** · (This post was last modified: Feb 2, 2023 07:35 AM by Kornee.)

(Feb 1, 2023 10:07 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Is climate change (warmer winter) helping the Ukrainians? I would think the weapons at their disposal work in all kinds of weather. Seems to me that strategy wise, the Ukrainians have the edge which to me overshadows any weather predicaments.

They 'have the edge' because they were long chosen in advance as Grand Chessboard pawns, purposefully fed with all the high tech 'Western' i.e. principally US mustered surveillance and 'discounted' high tech gear utilizing such, 'freely' available.
Just who is expected to foot the final bill is a bit of a mystery. It for sure won't be the shareholders in the highly lucrative taxpayer funded US 'defense' industries that's for sure. Oh vey!

Of course it helps much that Russian military has proven to be atrociously inept. That is changing, as tactics inevitably adapt like an eerie (kind of inverse) echo of how Operation Barbarossa progressed in WW2.

**confused2** · Feb 2, 2023 12:17 PM

Global warming .. 2 degrees centigrade by 2300 is about 0.025 degrees (0.08 F) per year .. unless they are expecting a really long war this probably won't affect things very much...

**Kornee** · (This post was last modified: Feb 2, 2023 01:27 PM by Kornee.)

(Feb 2, 2023 12:17 PM)confused2 Wrote: Global warming .. 2 degrees centigrade by 2300 is about 0.025 degrees (0.08 F) per year .. unless they are expecting a really long war this probably won't affect things very much...

Have you added two centuries on purpose? Isn't that 2 degrees C rise supposed to be the 'if we do nothing about it' or 'this is the most we can allow' projection by the year 2100 i.e. ~ 77 not 277 years hence?
Amusingly (not really!) what helped the USSR back in 1941-42 was having the coldest Russian winter for ~ 40 years.

**confused2** · (This post was last modified: Feb 2, 2023 02:57 PM by confused2.)

(Feb 2, 2023 01:20 PM)Kornee Wrote:
(Feb 2, 2023 12:17 PM)confused2 Wrote: Global warming .. 2 degrees centigrade by 2300 is about 0.025 degrees (0.08 F) per year .. unless they are expecting a really long war this probably won't affect things very much...
Have you added two centuries on purpose? Isn't that 2 degrees C rise supposed to be the 'if we do nothing about it' or 'this is the most we can allow' projection by the year 2100 i.e. ~ 77 not 277 years hence?
Amusingly (not really!) what helped the USSR back in 1941-42 was having the coldest Russian winter for ~ 40 years.

Don't know where the 2300 came from (2023?). 0.025 degree per year for 80 years is 2 degrees (centigrade). Might be less, might be more. Either way probably not worth keeping a war going until the weather improves - it might get worse - there's no way to know.

Russian army officer admits: 'Our troops tortured Ukrainians'

Quote:Konstantin Yefremov, the most senior officer to speak openly, told the BBC in an exclusive interview Russia now sees him as a traitor and defector.
At one site in southern Ukraine, he said "the interrogations, the torture, continued for about a week".
"Every day, at night, sometimes twice a day."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64470092

**RainbowUnicorn** · (This post was last modified: Yesterday 03:52 AM by RainbowUnicorn.)

(Feb 1, 2023 10:07 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Is climate change (warmer winter) helping the Ukrainians? I would think the weapons at their disposal work in all kinds of weather. Seems to me that strategy wise, the Ukrainians have the edge which to me overshadows any weather predicaments.

western military technology is vastly more advanced than russian military technology

keep in mind billions of dollars has been stolen by the russian political and military leadership which should have gone into advancing russian technology, plus the russian ideology that human wave/suicide attacks are more important than technology advancement.

the weapons that have advantage in boggy weather is the large wheeled vehicles which Western powers have.

the russian military is a failure & its brutality towards everyone shows in that with their torture, rape & murder & blatant daily war crimes.

The basic analogy applies in that it requires more resources to take territory than it does to defend territory.

Tanks which spear head advancement in taking territory can not operate in heavy mud & a lot of the land is farmed fields which turn to mud very quickly so there is a break even point between freezing, mud and dry soil/ground where tanks can operate.
western technology has the edge the longer the war goes on the greater that edge gains in over all advantage.