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Our internal monologues can vary and be bizarre for some people

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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Some voices that people hear repeat a lot, they don't age or die off and it's why people assume it's a mental construct however it could actually be an Artificial (Intelligence) construct but the question is who ran by and to what ends?.

My voices haven't aged though I've had them for around 20 years. The little girl is still herself. The little boy is still himself. And the young man is still a young man. I can tell I sort of half create them with alot of repetitious back and forth. It's like paddy cake bakers man. "I love you Ling Ling." "I love you too," she says. "I'm driving now." "I'm driving too, she replies. "It's raining outside." "No it isn't," she retorts. Back and forth, exchanging the energy like playing catch. It's neither a disorder nor an illness as it helps me to cope with my daily stress. It's just one of those quirks that show up in people now and then--an entirely human mode of adapting to the vissicitudes of life. I wonder what Julian Jaynes would have to say about it?Smile
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#12
stryder Offline
(Oct 29, 2021 04:11 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Some voices that people hear repeat a lot, they don't age or die off and it's why people assume it's a mental construct however it could actually be an Artificial (Intelligence) construct but the question is who ran by and to what ends?.

My voices haven't aged though I've had them for around 20 years. The little girl is still herself. The little boy is still himself. And the young man is still a young man. I can tell I sort of half create them with alot of repetitious back and forth. It's like paddy cake bakers man. "I love you Ling Ling." "I love you too," she says. "I'm driving now." "I'm driving too, she replies. "It's raining outside." "No it isn't," she retorts. Back and forth, exchanging the energy like playing catch. It's neither a disorder nor an illness as it helps me to cope with my daily stress. It's just one of those quirks that show up in people now and then--an entirely human mode of adapting to the vissicitudes of life. I wonder what Julian Jaynes would have to say about it?Smile
From my perspective it sounds like they are canned laughter. Certain keywords and/or phrases suggest what responses would be picked which in turn is where the repetition is. (You likely find their responses tend to have an increased frequency in rhyming etc)

If it's anything like the Shotspotter method of operation, your thoughts/inputs would create an automate reaction which pings on a computer somewhere where a trainee psychotherapist (or parapsychologist) checks to make sure the input is understood correctly and the response sounds "natural".

If I'm right thought I'd be concerned as while it might be a large project to process "big data" to indentify how to interept human interactions on a mass scale (unnoising human created chaos), true AI might try to look for the exploitive measure of controlling the individuals it's suppose to be only observing as it see's it easier to manipulate the data that way than crunch the numbers after the fact. (Attempting to assimulate us all into a communistic borg collective)

I'm sure a number of quacks would argue about my "delusion" on this subject, but they are just as prone to such abuse. The difference is I'm aware... they still seem to think they have freewill.
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Syne Offline
(Oct 29, 2021 04:11 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: It's like paddy cake bakers man. ...Back and forth, exchanging the energy like playing catch.
As I said, "A person will play any game, even with themselves and to their own detriment, rather than no game at all."
And the analogy to a child's rhyme isn't coincidental.

Quote:It's neither a disorder nor an illness as it helps me to cope with my daily stress.
As I said, "It's a huge cope to avoid your fear of genuine social interaction." and "If they didn't distress you, you wouldn't be taking medication to deal with them."

(Oct 29, 2021 04:57 AM)stryder Wrote:
(Oct 29, 2021 04:11 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: I can tell I sort of half create them with alot of repetitious back and forth.
From my perspective it sounds like they are canned laughter.  Certain keywords and/or phrases suggest what responses would be picked which in turn is where the repetition is.  (You likely find their responses tend to have an increased frequency in rhyming etc)
It's called identity thinking, which is all the subconscious does. Identity thinking is generalization that tries to equate everything. So a specific stimuli is always equal to a specific response, like instinctual reaction. The stimuli of certain words automatically elicit the equated responses. Call and reply. Rhyming is just the equating of sounds. All in the individual mind.

Quote:If it's anything like the Shotspotter method of operation, your thoughts/inputs would create an automate reaction which pings on a computer somewhere where a trainee psychotherapist (or parapsychologist) checks to make sure the input is understood correctly and the response sounds "natural".
That "computer" is just your subconscious, with the only naturalness of response coming from both the stimuli and reply originating with actual people or experiences in your past.
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confused2 Offline
I think I think mostly in 'things'. Given food and alcohol in moderation I'm a happy bunny - I don't have any worries about those so all that is left is 'things'. Right now I need to make a hole in a wall for an extraction fan. The plan runs through possible ways of actually doing this with my drill, a hired drill, risk of overheating or breaking a drill and so on - with actual 'drill and concrete' sound effects. By the time I get round to doing the job I'll have tried out dozens of ways of doing it and have done a cost/benefit/risk analysis by trying the job in many different ways.
I suspect (I'm not sure) the 'words' part of my thinking is only used to communicate with Mrs C2, shopkeepers, a few others and your good selves. Possibly because .. I'll go with laugh (possibly not shopkeepers) .. nah, smile, for laugh substitute smile. Godmother productions lie so outside anything.. words fail me.
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