(Jan 4, 2021 04:54 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: As mentioned in a previous thread, God is the relationship between mind and reality. This was an insight that I arrived at in a meditative state.

The potential for God to exist is born out of the human brain, or parts of it, that when activated, generates an external conscious entity within their environment. The conscious entity appears to respond to internal thoughts and even actions. It can also provide signs warning of danger. 

When the brain generates this extra-dimensional being, it appears to act intelligently and independently. It may be assumed that the entity or "syntactical machine that is consciousness made actual" exists prior to matter, since matter takes on a lower form of reality and does not possess intrinsic intelligence.

(Jan 5, 2021 02:07 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:

(Jan 4, 2021 04:54 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: As mentioned in a previous thread, God is the relationship between mind and reality. This was an insight that I arrived at in a meditative state.

The potential for God to exist is born out of the human brain, or parts of it, that when activated, generates an external conscious entity within their environment. The conscious entity appears to respond to internal thoughts and even actions. It can also provide signs warning of danger. 

When the brain generates this extra-dimensional being, it appears to act intelligently and independently. It may be assumed that the entity or "syntactical machine that is consciousness made actual" exists prior to matter, since matter takes on a lower form of reality and does not possess intrinsic intelligence.

Potential, appears(2x) and assumed. Pretty much what atheists have been saying for years. One might almost think you’re describing a believer’s brain. This could be your worst evidence for God yet. Have you changed?

Quote:You might think of potential as that which is mathematically defined by the probabilistic entity I call the wavefunction. Prior to observation, God is merely a potential or pre-existent entity that seems to originate from a dimension that is 90 degrees to material reality. Only through a newfound state of awareness does this extra-dimensional entity coincide with the material world.

(Jan 6, 2021 01:03 PM)stryder Wrote: A thought experiment (This is not meant to battle enrage anyone, so please take it with a pinch of salt). 

If a "God" is all knowing, omnipresent, and all powerful.  Then it should be within reason that a person could ask for themselves to never have existed.  (I guess you could call it similar to a grandfather paradox) 

For instance If there was such thing as a god, then I should never have existed.  Since I exist, I prove that god's in any form do not. 

There is of course a problem to this thought experiment, there's a lot of lunatics out there that have a belief where they think they can inact the hand of their divergent mind... i.e. "thinking that shooting me would prove their god exists."

Part of the theory is the "omnipresent and all powerful" aspect of their posed god, which basically means their application on this mortal coil to carry out the perceived bidding on their deity is actually a rediculous notion in it's own right.  I mean they are the equivalent of ants in the universe, their manifestation of destiny in the name of a divine entity is therefore a silly notion.

A deity would not need them to carry out such acts since a being "Omnipresent and all powerful" should quite capable of doing that themselves (in this case making me not exist before I was born)

Q.E.D.  I exist and the reality of any deity is therefore proven falacious.

(Jan 6, 2021 05:05 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:

Quote:You might think of potential as that which is mathematically defined by the probabilistic entity I call the wavefunction. Prior to observation, God is merely a potential or pre-existent entity that seems to originate from a dimension that is 90 degrees to material reality. Only through a newfound state of awareness does this extra-dimensional entity coincide with the material world.

And I'm a potential immortal. I assume science is on the right track and it appears they may be getting close to discovering the Fountain of Youth. See how that works?

I think you've gone totally circular and right back to where someone has to decide if God is in the mind or not. I'd think most every theist in the world asks that question at least once. Not dissing you, believe whatever you want. Just letting you know the product of your search has you right back to page 1. So I kind of feel some compassion.

If I achieve immortality (not physically die ever) will I actually get to meet your big guy?

(Jan 6, 2021 01:03 PM)stryder Wrote: If a "God" is all knowing, omnipresent, and all powerful.  Then it should be within reason that a person could ask for themselves to never have existed.  (I guess you could call it similar to a grandfather paradox) 

Quote:For instance If there was such thing as a god, then I should never have existed.  Since I exist, I prove that god's in any form do not. 

Quote:There is of course a problem to this thought experiment, there's a lot of lunatics out there that have a belief where they think they can inact the hand of their divergent mind... i.e. "thinking that shooting me would prove their god exists."

Quote:Part of the theory is the "omnipresent and all powerful" aspect of their posed god, which basically means their application on this mortal coil to carry out the perceived bidding on their deity is actually a rediculous notion in it's own right.  I mean they are the equivalent of ants in the universe, their manifestation of destiny in the name of a divine entity is therefore a silly notion.

Quote:A deity would not need them to carry out such acts since a being "Omnipresent and all powerful" should quite capable of doing that themselves (in this case making me not exist before I was born)

Q.E.D.  I exist and the reality of any deity is therefore proven falacious.

(Jan 6, 2021 07:11 PM)Syne Wrote:

(Jan 6, 2021 01:03 PM)stryder Wrote: If a "God" is all knowing, omnipresent, and all powerful.  Then it should be within reason that a person could ask for themselves to never have existed.  (I guess you could call it similar to a grandfather paradox) 

Since god's not a genie, why would you expect it to grant your wish? "Could ask" doesn't mean "will be granted". Nor does it even follow that having an omniscient, omnipotent, etc. god makes that request "within reason".

Quote:For instance If there was such thing as a god, then I should never have existed.  Since I exist, I prove that god's in any form do not. 

That doesn't follow from any argument you've given. You've just assumed, without justification, that the existence of such a god makes that request reasonable and, for some unknown reason, must automatically grant it. I know of no description of god that forces it to grant wishes.

Quote:There is of course a problem to this thought experiment, there's a lot of lunatics out there that have a belief where they think they can inact the hand of their divergent mind... i.e. "thinking that shooting me would prove their god exists."

Again, that does not follow from any argument you've given. Who thinks killing you is the will of god, and how would that possibly prove a god?

Quote:Part of the theory is the "omnipresent and all powerful" aspect of their posed god, which basically means their application on this mortal coil to carry out the perceived bidding on their deity is actually a rediculous notion in it's own right.  I mean they are the equivalent of ants in the universe, their manifestation of destiny in the name of a divine entity is therefore a silly notion.

There are observable laws of nature. We do not see them violated in a way that would evidence a god interfering because, if a god created such laws, it would not contradict itself by violating them. So unless you have evidence of divine intervention, there is no logical option but for men to enact the will of god.

Quote:A deity would not need them to carry out such acts since a being "Omnipresent and all powerful" should quite capable of doing that themselves (in this case making me not exist before I was born)

Q.E.D.  I exist and the reality of any deity is therefore proven falacious.

You obviously don't understand what "QED" nor "fallacious" means, as you misused both.

(Jan 6, 2021 11:25 PM)stryder Wrote: Whirling those haymakers at strawmen?

Quote:The possibility of meeting God on earth has its potential to become actualized through every human observer so yes.