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A Non-random progression of events - Ostronomos - Dec 23, 2019

In Quantum Phyisics, reality takes on a probabilistic progression through time. When the Quantum world is augmented to the macroscopic, the mind interacts with the objective reality as a form of unity or non-separation. This causes non-randomness.


RE: A Non-random progression of events - Zinjanthropos - Dec 24, 2019

(Dec 23, 2019 11:14 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: In Quantum Phyisics, reality takes on a probabilistic progression through time. When the Quantum world is augmented to the macroscopic, the mind interacts with the objective reality as a form of unity or non-separation. This causes non-randomness? 

The chance of a variation (probabilistic) of reality is somehow responsible for non-randomness?


RE: A Non-random progression of events - RainbowUnicorn - Dec 24, 2019

(Dec 23, 2019 11:14 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: In Quantum Phyisics, reality takes on a probabilistic progression through time. When the Quantum world is augmented to the macroscopic, the mind interacts with the objective reality as a form of unity or non-separation. This causes non-randomness.


fate statement ?

"augmented to" ... this is adding something to something
so it requires new content applied via perceptual interface
thus it is a change of raw data

the observer does not augment

"objective reality"

once the mind interacts with objective reality reality and the mind become non objective by their loss of the position of impartiality to objectivity.
this is a more advanced lesson in meditation.

the nature to define objectiveness undoes the ability to remain in contact with reality
objectiveness by its very nature renders the event to become comparatively co-dependant on the Ego of the observer.

these things take people many years to learn through a proper meditation teacher.


"non-randomness" is an assumed state while also being a religious belief.

if you can define the event as being non random then you can see its causes
if you can see its causes you are the observer observing
if you are defining a causative nature to events, you lose the ability to remain the observer.
and objectivity becomes the Ego.

strong institutionalized religious beliefs get in the way of learning such things, fear is indoctrinated into the unknown and the religion is programmed in to be the drug that fills the void of fear.


RE: A Non-random progression of events - Ostronomos - Dec 25, 2019

(Dec 24, 2019 04:37 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:
(Dec 23, 2019 11:14 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: In Quantum Phyisics, reality takes on a probabilistic progression through time. When the Quantum world is augmented to the macroscopic, the mind interacts with the objective reality as a form of unity or non-separation. This causes non-randomness? 

The chance of a variation (probabilistic) of reality is somehow responsible for non-randomness?

Due to the unified interaction, it is dictated by mind, so yes.


RE: A Non-random progression of events - Zinjanthropos - Dec 26, 2019

Quote:Due to the unified interaction, it is dictated by mind, so yes.


By mind, do you mean something that exists separate from the physical or something that’s actually a property of the physiology or physical nature of the life form?


RE: A Non-random progression of events - Ostronomos - Dec 26, 2019

Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote:Due to the unified interaction, it is dictated by mind, so yes.


By mind, do you mean something that exists separate from the physical or something that’s actually a property of the physiology or physical nature of the life form?
The mental is just the physical in a more sophisticated format than our present science has not quite explained yet. Recall that the universe contains itself dually. This means that describers exist and are created by that dual self-containment. While being topologically contained, the universe is also descriptively contained, resolving the self-containment paradox. It is a form of mind and reality containing themselves.


RE: A Non-random progression of events - Zinjanthropos - Dec 27, 2019

Quote: It is a form of mind and reality containing themselves.


Are you implying there are more forms M&R can take?


RE: A Non-random progression of events - Ostronomos - Dec 29, 2019

Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote: It is a form of mind and reality containing themselves.


Are you implying there are more forms M&R can take?
No. Mind and reality are exclusively one. God is the relationship between mind and reality, and can therefore generate itself/himself. This implies that God can pop into existence from nothing. There is only one form mind and reality can take, and that one form is defined by reality, which in turn is defined by mind. Just as mathematical equations yield one answer - the correct one.


RE: A Non-random progression of events - Zinjanthropos - Dec 29, 2019

(Dec 29, 2019 03:22 AM)Ostronomos Wrote:
Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote: It is a form of mind and reality containing themselves.


Are you implying there are more forms M&R can take?
No. Mind and reality are exclusively one. God is the relationship between mind and reality, and can therefore generate itself/himself. This implies that God can pop into existence from nothing. There is only one form mind and reality can take, and that one form is defined by reality, which in turn is defined by mind. Just as mathematical equations yield one answer - the correct one.

So God is a relationship now? When did it change from an entity? I think it's a good metaphor.


RE: A Non-random progression of events - Ostronomos - Dec 31, 2019

Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Ostronomos Wrote:
Zinjanthropos Wrote:
Quote: It is a form of mind and reality containing themselves.


Are you implying there are more forms M&R can take?
No. Mind and reality are exclusively one. God is the relationship between mind and reality, and can therefore generate itself/himself. This implies that God can pop into existence from nothing. There is only one form mind and reality can take, and that one form is defined by reality, which in turn is defined by mind. Just as mathematical equations yield one answer - the correct one.
 
So God is a relationship now? When did it change from an entity? I think it's a good metaphor.
God may be identified with the mathematical laws that govern reality naturally. In addition to the sentient nature of the universe. Such ideas are not widely accepted by the academic community because they may enter into the realm of absurdity. However, when we pierce the veil of reality we encounter immaterial properties within it. God, for example, has an immaterial nature. He is light and consciousness and love. These are real properties of the universe. Because observation cannot explain reality, we must use logic.