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Vegan dieting parents of girl jailed after tot nearly starved to death (life styles) - C C - May 24, 2019

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/parents-who-raised-baby-girl-16191232

EXCERPT: A couple who raised their baby on a vegan diet have been jailed for three months after the girl nearly starved to death. The child had a diet of breast milk, brown rice and potatoes, a court heard. And the 18-month-old was rushed to hospital in February in a critical condition and unresponsive. Doctors said she was just hours from death.

A judge at Gothenburg District Court in Sweden told the parents on Thursday that her diet had been negligent and threatened her life. Medics provided evidence her condition was due to 'prolonged starvation' and one said it was 'worse than anything we have seen at the hospital before,' The Local reported.

[...] The parents, who also follow vegan diets, call themselves 'nomads' and tend to live with friends, Ekuriren reported. Her parents were sentenced for gross negligence causing bodily harm. (MORE - details)


RE: Vegan dieting parents of girl jailed after tot nearly starved to death (life styles) - Zinjanthropos - May 24, 2019

Somebody might want to investigate their ‘friends’. Can’t imagine these two showing up at my door, especially with infant and needing a place to live. Well the nomads won’t need to worry about accommodations for a little while. At least the kid is safe. Not wishing to pile on all their friends so I’m going to assume one of them had the wherewithal to contact authorities. Also I’m thinking an infant could survive a proper Vegan diet if administered correctly but I really don’t know.


RE: Vegan dieting parents of girl jailed after tot nearly starved to death (life styles) - C C - May 24, 2019

(May 24, 2019 12:38 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: . . . Also I’m thinking an infant could survive a proper Vegan diet if administered correctly but I really don’t know.


I'd assume the same, but such could still appear a bit fragile to me (explore that further down). But the parent's food orientation might be completely irrelevant in the end, due to the mother expressing additional "remarkable beliefs that people could live without food or water following long-term mental and physical training".

Their lawyers claimed the malnourishment was caused by a GI infection. Whether true or not, even a proper vegan diet for a child could probably be easily derailed by anything like that interfering with absorption and intake. Since limited protein sources for a strict vegan diet are flirting on the edge to begin with in terms of erratic digestion discomforts, oxalates and other chemical agents, and needing to consume significant amounts of some things.

The largest part of vegan protein probably comes from legumes (including peanuts, soy beans) and real nuts, with items like a large baked potato being just that -- too much for a toddler, along with various kinds of seed-based meals probably presenting problems. Being converted to purée "baby-food" still doesn't eliminate natural irritants and potential inflammatory and allergic reactions that have a more noticeable effect on bambinos trying to develop the initial tolerance for the aggravating substances.

No doubt protein-packed sources like chicken, beef, cheese, eggs, fish, etc (again reduced to mash texture) sport their own brand of contingent irritants... but the omnivorous parents have more options to experiment with.


RE: Vegan dieting parents of girl jailed after tot nearly starved to death (life styles) - Zinjanthropos - May 24, 2019

Mom is psych ward material and Dad a candidate for rehab. He may also be a mental patient. But jail’s where they go these days for stuff like this. Whatever happened to mental institutions? The mentally ill seem to have practically disappeared to live under a bridge somewhere or wander the streets pushing a shopping cart.


RE: Vegan dieting parents of girl jailed after tot nearly starved to death (life styles) - C C - May 25, 2019

(May 24, 2019 07:00 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Mom is psych ward material and Dad a candidate for rehab. He may also be a mental patient. But jail’s where they go these days for stuff like this. Whatever happened to mental institutions? The mentally ill seem to have practically disappeared to live under a bridge somewhere or wander the streets pushing a shopping cart.


Since deinstitutionalism was a worldwide movement back in the latter half of the 20th-century, I'm guessing the decline and loss of state hospitals in the US probably paralleled something similar in Canada and elsewhere.

It's indeed why "homelessness" exploded in the 1980s, as released patients and next-generation "would have been institutionalized" need-help cases were left to wander the streets. Although the media tried to blame Reagan exclusively for it after he crippled Carter's MHSA 1980, the ultimate blame goes back to the progressively idealistic potato heads in the psychiatric and social science fields of the late 1950s who first began proposing the overhauling and dismantling of the Hollywood-exaggerated "snake-pits". I.e., such crusading experts literally gave the politicians of both parties the very ammo they needed to begin cutting funding and costs.

Items like the California Lanterman–Petris–Short Act made "involuntary hospitalization of mentally ill people vastly more difficult. One year after the law went into effect, the number of mentally ill people in the criminal-justice system doubled.". IOW, toss in the added influence on politicians from certain special-interest civil rights activism of the '60s and '70s which was myopically focused on rescuing the tiny percentage of individuals wrongfully locked-up in those establishments. "Humanitarians" who were likewise clueless as to the tragic consequences they were setting into motion by tossing the baby out with the bathwater. Hopefully there's a yearly supply of deceased, monomaniac do-gooders maintaining population growth in Hell. (TIMELINE: Deinstitutionalization And Its Consequences)

"The well intentioned deinstitutionalization movement which started with a noble aim of treating and rehabilitating mentally ill patients in community itself, so to reduce human rights violations and mitigate their sufferings, has almost failed to achieve its aim. Human right violations which are supposed to occur behind impregnable walls of mental hospitals, occurs right in front of opened eyes of society, as a result of which mentally ill patients suffers in jails, prisons, beggar’s home, shelter homes and streets.

[...] In 1963, it was believed that state mental hospitals were too often institutions for quarantining the mentally ill. In response to this perceived mental health problem, Congress passed the Community Mental Health Centers Act to move the mentally ill out of prolonged confinement in overcrowded state custodial institutions into voluntary treatment at community mental health centers. On Oct. 31, 1963, President Kennedy who believed mental hospitals as 'snake pits' signed the Community Mental Health Centers Act into law. The policy was said to be initiated by concern for mentally ill patients. But economic considerations cannot be ruled out. However, policy of deinstitutionalization has failed miserably.
" --Deinstitutionalization or Disowning Responsibility

How The Loss Of U.S. Psychiatric Hospitals Led To A Mental Health Crisis
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/30/567477160/how-the-loss-of-u-s-psychiatric-hospitals-led-to-a-mental-health-crisis